Vista

Discussion in 'PC Help Desk' started by kaci, Jan 15, 2007.

  1. kaci

    kaci Well-Known Member

    Ok, you computer geeks out there, any pros or cons you have heard about the new Microsoft OS coming out on the 29th. Anyone tried a Beta version yet and has any info on it?
     
  2. Hught

    Hught Well-Known Member

    On Content Protection it does not look very good. Actually I have close to zero interest in it.

    Windows Vista: Suicide notes, nerdcore rap MP3

    In an textfile essay on the "the cost involved in Vista's content protection, and the collateral damage that this incurs throughout the computer industry," Peter Gutmann says "the Vista Content Protection specification could very well constitute the longest suicide note in history." Link to full text. (thanks to everyone who suggested this!) BB reader Henrik says, "I wrote a raptune about two nerds who wait for Windows Vista. The project is called n00b Killaz and Henrik Persson was the writer, performer and producer. MÃ¥rten Olsson was the mixer. All in good fun!" MP3 Link. I like it!

    http://www.boingboing.net/2006/12/24/windows_vista_suicid.html
     
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2007
  3. Pirate96

    Pirate96 Guest

    Vista - May End the Microsoft Dominance

    Why pay for an operating system that you can get the same features for free. Everybody I have talked to that has played with it does not like it. The BIOS team that I have talked to wishes they had never heard of Vista. Buy a new computer if you want to run it. I will not load it even if given the software. In can get everything I need in an OS for free and I control the content. Microsoft has gone too far. An example is that if you are the creator of a song and decide their is no copy protection than Vista will automatically add it for you.
     
  4. CrzyForBaseball

    CrzyForBaseball Well-Known Member

    Just a FYI for anyone who may have a slighty older, but upgraded computer. Your specs may meet the Vista recommendations, but you HAVE to have a DVD ROM drive. A CD drive will not work.
     
  5. Clif

    Clif Guest

    Not entirely true.

    You can contact Microsoft for a CD version of Vista (at least that's what the upgrade advisor said).
     
  6. lgk_195

    lgk_195 Guest

    I have played with Vista for sometime now (2yrs) and they have made huge improvements in the OS over any of their other OS's, but I would not upgrade to it for at least six months because there are still a lot of things that will not work with it, software, hardware, etc.

    I do plan on buying this OS in the future but probably not until August or so since there is a lot of software I use today that is still not ready for vista. DirectX 10 is also an issue for gamers since some games do not even recognize DirectX10 yet.

    Hope this helps with your question.
     
  7. Pirate96

    Pirate96 Guest

    Why????


    So what are the advantages of upgrading to Vista?
     
  8. space_cowboy

    space_cowboy Well-Known Member

    At this time, I don't see any reason to make the move. The only advantage right now is DX10 for gamers, and even then the titles that take advantage of this are limited. I don't plan to make a move for at least another year.
     
  9. Lester

    Lester Well-Known Member

    If you're running 2k or XP, don't upgrade. Just buy it on your next PC in a year or two.

    If you're running 95, 98, or ME, go ahead and buy that next PC now. :)

    I'm curious how someone could have been testing it for 2 years, but I can throw in I've been testing it since May, through the Microsoft TAP program. I can safely say it is extremely adequate, and give it two hearty thumbs sideways.

    In a nutshell (and as mentioned above) if it comes with your next PC, don't fret, it's not bad. It is *NOT* worth buying just to have "the next big thing". There are no DX10 games yet, and precious few DX10 video cards, meaning that DX9 will remain a common denominator for awhile (if gaming even interests you). User Authentication is a rip off of Linux, and has been neutered just enough to be totally ineffective against malware. (Eventually the same people that say YES to ActiveX will say YES to UA and allow it to install anyway.)

    The "AeroGlass" effect is cool, but you're likely not to be able to see it if you don't shell out bigger bucks for Vista Home Premium (Glass doesn't work on Home Basic), and you'll need a bit of a beefy video card to get it to work. (Although the newer Intel Integrated video controllers actually support it now.)

    Ultimately, this is a revenue stream for Microsoft. XP sales have flattened out, and are available on the cheap through OEM. Time to bump up the bottom line. With MS's promise that it won't be more than 5 years until their next OS, you get a good idea what is driving the boat. In 5 years, Vista will be replaced when it doesn't need to be, just as XP is getting replaced now.

    If I'm being redundant, allow me to repeat myself </rick dees>: Don't buy it... get it already installed on your next system. Don't waste the time or money to put it on a system you already own.
     
  10. ddrdan

    ddrdan Well-Known Member

    If your already running "Software for Idiots" (Windows XP) one step up won't hurt or help you. Your still going to have the same problems for the same reasons. Get a book, spend some time reading it, and make yourself aware of what's to come in computer software. The longer you ignore the problem, the span between you and your PC gets bigger.

    My suggestion to those who are lacking in PC knowledge: Step "down" not "up". Windows 2000 Pro will give you a stable platform but just won't have all those media whistles.

    Note: Never, never, never be a Microsoft guinea pig on a new OS release!!!
     
  11. Pirate96

    Pirate96 Guest

    Another Option than Vista

    Linux!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Stop the revenue to Redmond
     
  12. Lester

    Lester Well-Known Member

    Vista: Worthy, Largely Unexciting
    A new version of Microsoft Windows, the world's most popular and important computer operating system, will finally arrive for consumers on Jan. 30. It has taken the giant software maker more than five years to replace Windows XP with this new version, called Windows Vista -- an eternity by computer-industry reckoning. Many of the boldest plans for Vista were discarded in that lengthy process, and what's left is a worthy, but largely unexciting, product.


    http://online.wsj.com/public/articl...sGUp9UKiEikdnpxRiVaZw_20080118.html?mod=blogs
     
  13. Animal lover

    Animal lover Well-Known Member

    Windows Vista Upgrade Decision Flowchart (Click on the diagram, a .pdf, to make it readable.)
     
  14. Hught

    Hught Well-Known Member

    Loved it, especially the first two decision diamonds and their response on the left! :mrgreen:
     
  15. nevilock

    nevilock Well-Known Member

    well, Microsoft dropped this steaming **** right out onto the floor, and my basic plan is to wait for it to cool down and stink less before i pull out my pooper scooper and toss it into my box.

    Lester: vista beta testing has been going on for a really long time, even when it was refereed to as "Longhorn". 2 years isn't really unbelievable.


    i'm sorry, but since when is the four letter word for poo beginning with t in need of being censored? o_O
     
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2007
  16. Lester

    Lester Well-Known Member

    Longhorn didn't release to Beta until July of 2005, when it was renamed to Vista.

    The name Longhorn is still in circulation as the code name for the next iteration of server OS.

    As an aside, with this new found level of monopoly... and such a heavily restrictive authentication scheme, the price for Vista should be a lot lower than it is.

    But Bill is now willing to throw us a bone... If you throw down $300 for Ultimate, you can buy two copies of HOME for $49.00 each.

    Thanks Bill... that sure is generous.

    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/familydiscount.mspx
     
  17. lgk_195

    lgk_195 Guest

    Like I said before I have been testing Vista/Longhorn for a long time, if I remember correctly the end of 03 beginning of 04 was when I first downloaded a copy and started testing it.

    Now of course it did not function as it does now but it was still out there for testing. Just because the Beta was not release until 05 does not mean people were not testing it before the Beta release.
     
  18. Lester

    Lester Well-Known Member

    Nevermind.
     
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2007

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