Bus stop located at sex offenders residence

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by LI-bratz, Sep 7, 2008.

  1. LI-bratz

    LI-bratz Well-Known Member

    Just wanted everyone to know that my 14 year old daughter is on bus # 185 for WJHS & one of the stops is located in the shared driveway of a registered sex offender.
    The sex offender lives in a home directly behind another home & they use the same driveway.

    I bring this to your attention b/c the head of bus transportaion REFUSES to do anything about this. No only is he endagering a child but he is now in a position that could provoke this man to do something. To which this man has not bothered anyone or done anything wrong in the last 6 years. No one can prove someones rehabilitation.

    I also contacted JCSD to get their help & they were most helpful. They did everything they could do & still the bus transportation department will not move it b/c they say it is a direct stop. The child lives across the street from the offenders home. The bus transportation is making this child walk across the street & stand in the offenders driveway.

    You tell me how the school system cares about our children then. It is very easy for them to press a button on a computer & cross reference offenders to bus stops. It doesn't take but one minute to make sure that every child is safe to the best of their knowledge.

    Here we have a prime example that certain indiviuals think that the welfare of a child is of less importance than miles & or gas on a bus.

    By the way I am not the driver of the bus or a person whom works for the school system. My daughter flipped out when the bus changed routes last week & they stopped in front this guys house. She knew where the home was & what he looks like since we live in close proximity. So my 14 year old was the one to bring this to my attention & I took immediate action to no avail. This is just information for all parents.
     
  2. Local Lady

    Local Lady Well-Known Member

    A potentially dangerous situation & I agree, totally avoidable. I've had experience in trying to get a bus stop moved (in another nearby county), taking it as far as communicating with the county's school superintendent (whom I knew slightly) and a meeting with the school's principal. I drew maps with actual measured distances, provided definite facts on the unsafety of current stop - in a blind curve (newer stop only a few yards further but along a straight road section with good view) and had approval of parents & kids at current stop for the change.
    Conclusion: All failed. Pat, pat on my shoulder, but refusal to change the stop location. I was furious but had no recourse. Eventually I moved to another home/city/county.

    I receive those reports direct from the state everytime a sexual offender moves so know where they are & have actually emailed some to the school (when close by). I know one neighborhood where there are several offenders living and can't help worrying about the safety of the children I know personally who live there.
    Isn't it illegal for these offenders to be where children congregate (such as at schools, playgrounds, parks, etc?)
    So isn't there some possible legal recourse in having a children's bus stop so close to one?
    I agree, its like dangling bait or temptation in front of him.
     
  3. my4kiddies

    my4kiddies Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry but this situation is absolutely BS and i would keep going up the ladder until you find someone that's willing to stand up for whats right and move this bus stop , I would say your child is in absolute danger if she was younger but i think at 14 she can make sure to walk right past there and not talk to that person or anyone for that matter or you should pick her up from school if you can or have someone else until you can get this figured out with Johnston county transportation . You are your child's only advocate !

    Good luck and keep us posted
    & Thanks for posting
     
  4. Jester

    Jester Well-Known Member

    Call the newspaper, call the TV station, call your representative. You might even try contacting the Attorney General's office. In my opinion, this is the type of thing that is important and there should be a statute that no registered child sex offender should live close to schools, parks, day cares, and...bus stops. As with so many other circumstances, the state will often not do anything until somebody is a victim. A more recent (but unrelated) is the crossing gates in Princeton. Now that a family has been killed there, they'll put up the necessary equipment now.

    Before I'd call anyone, however, I'd send a certified letter to the bus trans director again to make it official that you contacted him.
     
  5. Loriana

    Loriana Well-Known Member

    OK, maybe I'll be the bad guy here, but...

    Do you really think this person is going to get on the bus and "get" your child?

    As far as the child standing in that person's driveway, that seems a bit silly, but if he/she lives across the street from the person anyways, the child is already in as much danger, right? That child is going to be near the sex offender regardless of whether they move the stop. It seems to me that I wouldn't fight for the bus stop to be moved, I would just move.
     
  6. jtm

    jtm Well-Known Member

    Or, if the houses in question are across the street from each other on a 2-lane road, can the kid just wait for the bus in her own driveway? When the bus comes and stops, the kid then crosses the street and boards the bus.

    That wouldn't work for a divided highway or four-lane road with a center turn lane, though (opposing traffic doesn't have to stop for school buses in those situations).

    I don't want to advocate for a sex offender or anything, but if you ban them from living near a bus stop, you've pretty much banished them to either a retirement community, or in a van down by the river.
     
  7. Jester

    Jester Well-Known Member

    It could be possible that the person has moved, though. Sex offenders tend to move around a lot according to the Registry. To me, though I don't think its appropriate to have any child-related activities taking place around registered child sex offenders. You can't move a school, but you can move a bus stop.

    Even at 14, her daughter is a teenager, but still technically a child as are others at that bus stop. Our society is obligated to protect your children from danger and a sex offender/child predator qualifies as a danger. I assume this is in Johnston County. I'd call the Sheriff's Department if you can't get any help anywhere else.
     
  8. colinmama

    colinmama Guest

    Sex offenders don't even deserve to live in the gutter so a retirement community or a van by the river would be alot more than they deserve. I know you aren't advocating for them so this is not a personal attack on you, but I have zero tolerance for sex offenders.
     
  9. LI-bratz

    LI-bratz Well-Known Member

    I never stated anything to the fact about "getting" my child I am sorry you think it is silly however it was your child I think you would think otherwise or at least I hope that you would

    It is a two lane road & the child should wait in their own drive it would be safer all around or as I suggested the bus turns onto another road & actually passes the childs house to which the bus could pick up the child there. The school bus transportation refused any & all suggestions. First they wouldn't even go to the property to look at what I was speaking off

    I am not trying to ban anyone. I am not trying to stick up for an offender either but the school system put this offender in a situation that could cause him to get into trouble.
    ex: when the JCSD comes to check up on him like they do & lets say they happen to show up at the time a child is waiting at a bus stop that is a vacant home & then the sex offenders home Well now that sex offender is now in trouble. Why because he is in the proximity of a minor child & it is for him the offender to make sure that he is not.

    All I want is the school system to take one minute of their time to realize what is going on & they couldn't care less. So I want other parents to be aware that is all.

    Think of it if the school system allows this to occurr knowing the information & knowing that they could change the situation & refuse to do so what else are the incapable of doing because they just don't want to.
     
  10. Jester

    Jester Well-Known Member

    I understand what you're saying, however when a sex offender who has committed a crime against a child, moves across the street from a school or similar that is highly visible then you figure that there must be some sort of desire to be close to children. Unless that bus stop is new, there's a good chance that he moved there knowing that bus stop was there. Certainly I'm sure there are parents watching the stop, however keep in mind that there have been children snatched from beside the road and gone in seconds. There was a girl in Robeson County some years ago that happened to. Someone saw the truck that the person was driving that got her, but both she and the truck disappeared quickly and was never seen again.

    To me, child sex offenders and close proximity to children are a dangerous mix. Since it was they who committed the crime and are prone to commit similar crimes again, I think there should be more stringent legislation to prevent an offender from living close to such places. That's just my opinion.
     
  11. jtm

    jtm Well-Known Member

    I agree, if they move across from a school, park, etc, then they're looking for trouble, and I don't believe they should be allowed to live in those places.

    But it's pretty much impossible to not live near a bus stop. If you've got 3 or 4 houses close to each other, chances are a bus stop is pretty close. I'm not advocating for their freedom to live where they want, I'm just saying it's logistically near-impossible to keep them from living near a bus stop.
     
  12. LI-bratz

    LI-bratz Well-Known Member

    I did call them & they called the transportation department as well & bus transportation told them what I wrote in my first post. So I have taken it all the way. I have contacted WRAL, The Govs office & wrote to Dr Parker, Dr Croom & three board members of the board of education. Of course this all ended up on Friday so I have to wait & see what response I get as of Monday.
    The sex offender still resides there. He is only 5'6" but he weighs 256#. I live on a very large farm that connects to another farm that backs up to this offenders residence. So since day one my children were shown his house & his picture & trained to the best of my ability what to do. My daughter did just that when she came off the school bus & told me & here as a parent who is to protect her in this matter I have tried & the school system that we pay our tax dollars to refused to just make a slight change. Just to help a child / children.
     
  13. LI-bratz

    LI-bratz Well-Known Member

    Here is the problem the area is rural very where I am is all farms. The offender has lived there for the last 6.5 years & has never done anything wrong . You only see him walk to the mailbox. He moved to an area where no one is. The farm house across the street became a rental & now there is a child there. The bus stop is brand new. They make this child walk across the two lane road & wait in the drive. There are no parents watching

    Again not sticking up for the offender but he has done what he was supposed to do & now the school transportation has put him into a position as to proke him. No one can guarantee the safety of a child & then you knowing are putting a child at risk
     
  14. jtm

    jtm Well-Known Member

    You're right... We kept talking about sex offenders and where they can live, but this situation is about the school system being difficult/impossible. The sex offender sure didn't ask for a bus stop to be in front of his house. He's done what he's supposed to, and obviously tries to keep to himself and not bother anyone. Keep raising holy hell and hopefully someone, like the media, will take notice and embarrass the school system into doing the right thing. Good luck.

    Oh, by the way, did you mention what the guy was actually convicted of? It would be good (well, you know what I mean) if his crime didn't even have anything to do with children/minors.
     
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2008
  15. LI-bratz

    LI-bratz Well-Known Member


    He was convicted of Indecent Liberties with a minor.

    My comment to the school system is how many teachers in this county have been convicted of the same & where are they now. Then you allow a person in charge of the transportation dept. to make wise & safe decisions for the children of JOCO. I mean that is what we pay him for? I just like them pay tax dollars to make sure my daughter has a safe ride to school. That is the schools responsibility. This man who is in charge thinks that he is above the law-that is how I felt with what his repsponse was to the JCSD. I gather since his children are out of school then to you know where with the rest of us
     
  16. Sydney

    Sydney Well-Known Member

    I think that you are wrong for trying to embarass him. I understand your concerns about the bus stop, but trying to get the media involved is too much. It is not like he asked for the stop to be put there. Just contact and nag the school board about the issue. Then, if the school board doesn't do anything, contacts some state authority. Unless the guy actually goes out to talk with the kids, this is non of WRAL's business. When you live in a neighborhood or close to another person, you run the risk of living next to a sex offender. If you don't want to live next to one, check for one in the area before you move, or move to the boondocks. It is unfair to punish him for something the school system did.
     
  17. Hught

    Hught Well-Known Member

    :iagree:
     
  18. colinmama

    colinmama Guest

    I love sex offender sympathizers. Wouldn't be singing this tune if something happened to your child. And you have the audacity to suggest that SHE move to the boondocks. Send all the offenders to the swamp where they can live happily among the rest of the scum. This is something that the school system did? No my friend this is what this lowlife did!! I mean you can't be serious with this.
     
  19. Snuffleufogous

    Snuffleufogous Well-Known Member

    If I were the parent of the child who lives across from the sex offender, I would want the bus to stop as close to the house as they could. Hell, pull into the driveway! It seems to me that, if this person poses a threat to 14 year old girls, you would want your child's trip to school to be as supervised as possible. Therefore, I would WANT the bus stopping close to my house, and therefore close to the offender's house, rather than making my child walk down the road to catch the bus, being under little or no supervision while waiting for it. However, the child should never be required to cross a 2 lane road to wait for a bus in someone else's driveway. Traffic has to stop in both directions for a stopped school bus, unless it's a divided highway.
     
  20. Hught

    Hught Well-Known Member

    Sorry but we live in America, that little thing called the Constitution (and its amendments) rightfully keeps you from fulfilling your personal fantasy.
     

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