Are our children really safe? How does this happen?

Mcgee's has always checked mine as well.

 

WRAL.

Why are the rules in place if they are not followed? What if this child were never seen nor heard from again? Would they be so blase?

 

:lol::lol::lol: Then I'm almost positive you know who I am .... :mrgreen:

But I've never tried to hide my identity either........

 

:iagree: ..... I have never had an issue when asked for my ID. Matter O' fact I have "check ID" on the back of any credit card I own. I NEVER sign them.....

I know WVES is really good about checking ID's. As Moon stated the "usuals" up at the school (non JOCO employed) practically live up there so to ID them really would be redundant unless the office person was new and didn't know them. But in the end I am very grateful that they do ask for ID.

 

The older I get the more I WANT people to check my ID...

Please... I'm not as old as I look... HONEST! Here LOOK! :lol:

 

I am an X-banker as well (thank gawd I found out there was work outside of banking)! It always ticked me off when people would get mad about asking for id! HELLO!!! you would be even more ticked if I gave your money or information to someone else now wouldnt you? I would always say to them.....'do you know me? ok good....b/c I dont know you either!' DA's!!! I want everyone to ask me for my id!!! Makes me mad when they dont! Our school is about it asking fer sure!

 

Technically, I think so! The parent who did this was told in no uncertain terms that this was way out of line, and completely unacceptable. Apparently Mama really went off on this person, as most would, I am sure! The strange thing is, it seems this person cannot see how what occurred was wrong?!?
This was no custody matter. It was the child's neighbor. The parent has their own children in this school, volunteers and therefore is recognized in the school. Mind you, the student who was released has never been authorized to be dismissed to this person in her entire school career! I understand that most times ID is requested, but it only takes one mistake and then it could be too late!
This mother thought her child was safe at school, when all along she was not even there! A trip to the superintendent of school’s is in order, at least, IMO. I think this policy needs to be enforced no matter how well the staff knows the adult! So there are no gray areas, no assumptions. This situation proves that point, in my eyes.
I was also made aware that this occurs all the time in the car pool line. There are cards to show, issued at the beginning of the year, that are used as ID in carpool. Supposedly if you do not have the child's "card" visible, you are supposed to go inside and show ID, etc. The reality is, you call out the child’s name (not your own child) from your car window, show no note or form of id, and that child is still called to your vehicle and dismissed with you. This carpool practice, by the way, is commonplace at one school!
Yes, you may be a very familiar face, but that still does not authorize you to pick up any other child but your own, without going through the proper procedures that are in place for a reason.
It should be noted that the family this happened to adhears to a “Family Code Word”, and has for many years. Only the immediate family knows this word and if there is ever a change in routine, that has not been previously discussed with the parents, whoever is picking up/meeting the child must know the word. This specific child has had to use it on a few occasions (and did so as taught) and as well has been randomly “tested” to be sure it is reinforced. When the word has been used, the family immediately chooses a new word which is then practiced and reinforced on a regular basis. It has been impressed that this “rule” applies to everyone, including Grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc. This is so there is no question or thought, no gray areas, so to speak. Because this was a neighbor, and the school said it was okay, the child assumed in this situation that it was okay to leave during the school day with this neighbor.
Very, very scary to me.
Is there really no way to be certain this doesn’t happen again? To me, this was a HUGE error in judgment, probably the worst mistake an office staff member could make! WRAL has been suggested and considered....but will that truly help this problem? If so how?

 

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!

Many of you feel very confident with your school and it’s checking of ID’s. That is good, but please don’t be too confident. I must admit I have never heard of this occurring to anyone I know, until now. But it ONLY TAKES ONE MISTAKE, and then it could be too late. The school this happened at has been mentioned several times in this thread, and the adult that the child was released to is a very familiar face at this same school. I guess we just need to pray and hope we are one of the lucky ones, as my girlfriend feels she is, because it was not someone who wanted to hurt her child. Just very, very poor judgment concerning a few people. I just wish something could be done to prevent this from occurring. Maybe the “super” will have an idea!

 

I always show mine or ask if I need too. Even though they know me I think it should be standard. I don't wait to be asked, just like when I use a debit/credit card and have see ID on the back...I always pull out my license. I just want people to remember they have a responsibility.

Sherry

 

Last year, I had several times that my daughter was picked up, by friends, but they never checked their id. I knew they were picking her up, but they never checked their id's, and, one wasn't even on her list. So, I called and spoke to the assistant principal, and a day later, they were making sure and checking them every time. I work there now, and we always check id's, no matter what.

 

During carpool, we usually know when a student is gong home with someone different. The parents will send a note to school with both students, the one that is going home with her friend and the student that will have a friend go home with her that day. The parents will then call the school to make sure we got the note. So, we then tell the people in carpool of any changes.

I know there are times when communication is not always there, but most of the time it is.

 

And this is A PROBLEM!!!! It MUST be there ALL THE TIME!

 

After reading, not all but most of the postings regarding this issue.
Just my two cents.
It would seem, that in most places of work as well as everywhere in society we have rules or for a better word phrasing, which I believe would fit this situation "policy and procedures", that when not applied there are consequences of not following said rules/policies. We have are schools with established rules for the children, by which if they are not followed or applied the children have to accept the punishment that applies to breaking/not following the rules. If I'm not mistaken, there is a policy/procedure for dismissal of a child during school hours. It is very obvious to me that this rule/policy, that the schools are suppose to follow was blatantly not applied and therefore there should be consequences for not following this policy. How can we expect our children to respect/follow the rules if we ourselves do not, as we stumble over ourselves trying to make up excuses for this situation. This is a very clear case of the policies not being applied, end of discussion on this point, now move on.

 

AMEN

 

In my experience, elementary and middle schools are very good about this. My sons, however; are now going to West Johnston High and kids are 'trusted' to go where they're supposed to when they're supposed to after the bell rings. You can't pull a kid out of class without going in and showing ID, but once that bell rings, anyone can get to your kid.

I'm the mother of the missing boy being talked about on this Discussion Board, and one of the things this other mother would do was pick Daniel up after school when he was supposed to be riding the bus home. According to the school, there was nothing they could do. From their perspective, Daniel was a high-schooler and supposed to be trustworthy to follow the rules. They couldn't/wouldn't do anything to make sure he was on the bus every day and not getting in this woman's car!

 

My kids school has a computer that ask your name, driver license #, and takes your picture. Then it prints you a name tag. If you are caught at this school without this ID badge, they automatically call the law!

 

I am completely appalled! If something had happened to this child while out with a "parent" and I say that loosely-that had no right to pick this child up-someone would be in a big time lawsuit. I hope people take this seriously- if it was my child, I woould be out for blood-from the school and especially the parent who had the nerve to take my child out of school without asking my permission.

 

This is exactly what I was looking for in posting this thread! An idea on how to improve the system. :hurray:Turtlepits, I'm going to send you a pm.

 

Really. What the frig. There is NO excuse for this.

 

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