Outlook Users?

Discussion in 'PC Help Desk' started by kidsfly, Mar 17, 2008.

  1. kidsfly

    kidsfly Well-Known Member

    NOT Outlook Express users. (I just realized there's a difference)

    Anyway, please answer a few questions for me?
    1. Why use outlook with another email account (ie gmail) instead of using gmail's email features?

    2. Can a home user get the features they need from Outlook Express instead of Outlook?

    3. Do you know of a good book, website that provides tutorials to learn Outlook 2003? (A book review states that Outlook for Dummies 2003 is written more for office setting users, too technical for the beginner home user)

    Thanks.
     
  2. kidsfly

    kidsfly Well-Known Member

    Lol, Ken. I know how much you love MS products. :lol:

    Someone told me that using Outlook is more secure than using an online email program. True?

    Other advantge is you can write emails offline and not lose your work should you get bumped off the internet?

    Just trying to way some other pros and cons- besides the fact that MS is the author. 8)
     
  3. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    Now that Ken has explained from a technical standpoint, I'll give you the view from a tech-no-not. I used to use Outlook (not express) but I haven't used it since I got G-mail. I love G-mail. I can access my e-mail from anywhere, including all my old messages as well as new ones; I can access my contacts list from anywhere; I have hardly deleted a message in years - I have over 40,000 messages in my inbox, and I can find anything I want easily and quickly, just like using Google to search the web.
     
  4. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    :cheers:
     
  5. ws

    ws Well-Known Member

    i have used outlook for many years. i upgraded to office 07 last year and love it.
     
  6. outlook express to Thunderbird

    Ok question for any thunderbird lovers out there. I am going to be reloading my one pc in the next few weeks. Trying to back things up to my external hard drive first.

    I use outlook express 6.... and i do keep my emails out on my external drive. I have over 206 rules. I also go and export the registry keys for the rules to the external drive.

    I am on xp pro but will be reloading to xp home. Not sure if the xp pro cd and key are going to work. I was able to upgrade to xp pro from home while i was at jcc in the network administration degree program. But regardless of which version of xp i end up running. If i go and set up thunderbird on the new load.

    1.) Can I go and point it to where i keep my outlook emails, and will thunderbird use the rules i made in outlook express?

    2.) And how would I do it.

    3.) Also does thunderbird have a file size limitation? I know OE has a 2gig file limitation and i have one file that is over 1 gig already

    If possible could you write it as a step by step so I could print it off so i could have it in front of me when i go to convert. Thanks
     
  7. ddrdan

    ddrdan Well-Known Member

    I'll give you the best feature of Outlook over going to the Gmail web page.

    You can set up Outlook to recieve multiple email addresses and they all d/l automatically and as received. Verses logging in and out on the gmail page. You can also save the mail on Gmail for remote access. And, if you're asking, "Why do I need multiple email addresses?, you do if you don't already. Here's the catagory list for at least 3 email addresses:

    #3 Email Address: You give this address to the jerks who cut and paste with all the old copies included and all the replay annotations at the start of each line. You give this address to the jerks who still think, "sending this email to 100 people," will save some childs life or bring $100 from Microsoft. You give this address to the jerks who list your name in a group address with 10,000 other people and all of them are now sending you the same dam email as above. You give this address to the web sites that ask for email addresses. More or less you give this address to anyone unknown and the idiots you do know.

    #2 Email Address: You give this to people you feel comfortable with warning that you will break their legs if they send anything in the list above. If they do, you block them. This is the "limbo" area for, "I don't know?" You also have graduates of #3 that prove they can be trusted.

    #1 Email Address: Ahhhhh .... #1. This is the email address that is so easy to navagate, read, and reply that you feel like you just went to email heaven. You give this to those you really do trust and you graduate those from #2 that understand email is not a sport.

    The #1 is the one you check regular. If you're on the other lists and I don't get right back to you, don't let it hurt your feelings. If you haven't graduated from those lists, you should have your keyboard removed anyway.

    PS: There is a list #4, but they'd have to be the product of incest using a PC. If you do know someone like that, keep your worst enemies email handy and give them that.:lol::lol:
     
  8. blessed2adopt2

    blessed2adopt2 Well-Known Member

    Love the #1 part about 'graduated from those lists, you should have your keyboard removed anyway! hahahahaha. As a former manager of a help desk, 99% of the time any pc related problem was not the hardware or software, network, or anything technical...the problem was always between the seat and the keyboard. Once we had a user call to complain she'd lost all her files. We did find them for her, stored in her temporary internet files. aauuggh. I don't miss those days at all.
     
  9. kidsfly

    kidsfly Well-Known Member

    Thanks for continuing the discussion between the two programs.

    I'm thinking that almost everything in Outlook can now be accomplished in gmail? The calendar, appointment reminders, managing multiple email addresses, etc.

    The only big difference is that Outlook saves email to a computer, gmail keeps saved messages on their network?

    Here's why I asked. There is a class for beginners interested in learning an internet/email class at JCC. The class description states that it is a beginner's course using Internet Explorer and email using the Outlook program. It also states the course will also use Outlook to learn how to create, send, and handle email messages in your home or workplace.

    My thought was, why teach a beginner new to computers the Outlook program when all this can be accomplished through another email program (gmail, AOL, etc)?

    I'm still learning about both programs since I've spent most my computer email years using either AOL, Yahoo, Eudora, Hotmail.

    Thanks again for all your opinions, I still have so much to learn! :ack:
     
  10. kidsfly

    kidsfly Well-Known Member

    Surprisingly, there are still a lot of "idiots" out there who struggle learning how to use a computer. Even the how to Dummy guides can be overwhelming and not easy for a new user to follow, especially Senior Citizens. I know as I age, my brain sure does make it tough for me to remember things and what seems easy for others often frustrates me. Wish I could pick up things as quickly as my kids do. :banghead:
     
  11. Ken, Do you know off hand if Thunderbird supports or has newsgroups? I have newsgroups through earthlink but those blokes in India have totally screwed up my account and I really hate having to deal with somebody.
     
  12. ddrdan

    ddrdan Well-Known Member

    KEN,

    I use gmail thru pop in outlook. I like the file size capabilities of gmail. But, I don't load any Google or Yahoo software on my PC's. Call me anal but your dealing with the masters of advertising and data grabbing.

    To use the gmail features you must use their Toolbar. Between that and the Yahoo bar you might as well just crank up 10 app's and let them run. You'll get the same response time from your hardware. I know what files MS is running for outlook to operate. Please send me the complete file list on the google toolbar software??

    Oh, and ya gotta love their info page: "8. We have ads, but only the good kind". How many unwanted ads do you want cluttering your workspace? My answer is none.

    See, the difference between people who were using PC's when they were born and those using them now; we don't need to text 3 people while you type 2 emails during the download of that MP3 to your phone while you search Myspace for that girl you met at Best Buy while you were buying that over priced non-upgradeable PC from a geek who couldn't change his socks, never mind, advise you on a good purchase so you can go home and stick it in the hottest and dustiest place in your home while loading massive amounts of crap on it so you can develop a spyware infection that would make puss puss.

    I'm an optimum performance junkie not a useless optimum bells and whistles guy. The basic is, I tell my PC what I want it to do, and not vise versa. Google, Yahoo and even Microsoft are building software for idiots. I have a 2.0 machine that beats my kids 3.0 machine for speed. Why? Let’s see, because her lovely internet collection of bells and whistles drowns the boot process for startup and after that it burdens the whole system while it runs in the background.

    Fixing PC's is a good part time job, so I'm not complaining. You guy's keep doing what your doing.
     

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