Any military folks out there?

Didn't Stingy tell everyone the UCMJ was not a Federal Law because it only applied to military members? Title 10 must not be Federal Law or that would make the sub-sections also Federal Law as well. .... :lol: :lol:

 

You were taught Code 10, just like I was, and everyone else who was in the military and completed boot camp. You may not remember it, but it was taught.

I did answer the only question in the previous post.

Being wrong and ignorant isn't a comment on your intelligence. Smart people can be both wrong and ignorant.

One cannot look up anything unless they already knows it exists. Unlike the other veterans here, I remember the laws that were discussed back in boot camp, some thirty-odd years ago.

It seems odd to me that people can get so defensive when they are corrected on a statement that was made in error. I did not make any comment on whether or not the young girl in question should be allowed to wear the flak jacket (or whatever it was). My comment was directed at those who claim to be veterans and stated, with firm conviction, that there were no laws against wearing a uniform, or parts of a uniform, or military insignias or medals. Of all people, y'all should know. One thing that stands out in my memery is the lessons on respecting the uniform, which included discussions on laws which were enacted to prevent disrespecting the same.

 

So you are telling me that the teaching that you learned 30 years ago in basic training is exactly the same as it was when I went through basic training in the late 80's?

I don't think so, as times change so does the emphasis on what is taught during basic training. Just as what is taught in basic today isn't taught the same way I was taught.


Craig

 

I know I was taught in the 70s that it was unlawful (for military and civilians) to wear any insignia that denoted rank that you were not entitled too.

 

Times change, but the basics don't.

 

Well I guess I will just go and turn myself in for wearing my old command hats from the ships I have served on. I still have my dress blues and I was planning on wearing them to a party or to take my son trick or treating. I think maybe the law was written for a little differnt meaning than stopping a girl from wearing a BDU top to her school.

GO NAVY

 

Sorry for the bump.

Today.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/11/phony_marine_bu.html

 

Weilbacher was charged under a federal law that makes it illegal to wear Armed Forces medals without being authorized.

Not sure about the apples to apples comparison here ....

 

That's Article 10. It covers both uniforms and medals.

 

Are we talking about Title 10 of the US Code?
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode10/usc_sup_01_10.html
The entire body of federal law that covers the military?

Surely the reference is not to Article 10 of the UCMJ, which authorizes the restraint of persons charged with offenses and assures the right to a speedy trial?
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode10/usc_sec_10_00000810----000-.html
The UCMJ is Chapter 47 of Title 10:
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode10/usc_sup_01_10_10_A_20_II_30_47.html

 

I typed "Article 10", I meant "Code 10" of the US Code.

We're talking about Code 10/Subtitle A/PART II/CHAPTER 45/§ 771

A medal is part of the uniform.

 

I think you may be mistaken given

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000704----000-.html

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 33 > § 704

§ 704. Military medals or decorations

(a) In General.— Whoever knowingly wears, manufactures, or sells any decoration or medal authorized by Congress for the armed forces of the United States, or any of the service medals or badges awarded to the members of such forces, or the ribbon, button, or rosette of any such badge, decoration or medal, or any colorable imitation thereof, except when authorized under regulations made pursuant to law, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

 

I think you meant 10 U.S.C. 45 sec. 771. It's neither "Article 10" nor Code 10" but "Title 10" of the U.S. Code.

The wearing of unauthorized medals is covered in another part of the Code altogether.

 

I can assure you, Clif...that my daughter has no intentions of attending a Marine Corps League meeting as an imposter soldier. Besides, there are no medals.

She just wears it to show she supports the troops. :wink:

 

FWIW, as a veteran, I appreciate her wearing it in honor.

 

I Ditto Hatteras!

 

Once again, and for the last time, I was not making a comment on whether or not the law is good, bad, or indifferent. My only comment was directed at those who said there was no law.

Personally (and as a veteran as well), I don't really give a rip if anyone wears part of a uniform as a fashion statement or to honor the troops. Indeed, in my day, girls liked wearing 13 button blues (and they looked darn good in 'em too).

I would take offense if anyone wore the uniform pretending they served and didn't, though.

 

Having raised 4 daughters, my father had to fight to keep his shirts when he was in the Air Force. They were that gorgeous color (Air Force Blue) and had those neat little seamed holes on the breast. On the base where we lived, all the girls got their dad's "discards." We'd thread those little colored beads onto pins, and thread the pins through the holes.

In fact, one time my sister and I both wanted to wear one, but there was only one discard, so we took one of his good shirts in his closet and marked on it with permanent marker so he couldn't wear it as part of his uniform anymore. Thankfully, we never got caught. He would have tanned our hide!