Anyone know why NC 42 is blocked between NC 50 and Old Drug Store Rd?

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by Slate, Jul 17, 2009.

  1. cvfdcaptain

    cvfdcaptain Well-Known Member

    if im not mistaken, you have 2 entrances to your "lot" correct? were they both blocked? also i GAURANTEE if something had gone down, the chief would have more than enough "buddies willing to help" i wasnt there on your end but i was on the old drug store/nc 42 end, so im sure there is more to the story than is being told by you, it always is, so give the chief a break, he has a stressful enough job as it is, remember when you talk about 1 FD or firefighter, you are talking about our brothers and sisters, no matter when or where.
     
  2. VolleyGirl

    VolleyGirl Guest

    I did read the post. You sell that car? ;)
     
  3. VolleyGirl

    VolleyGirl Guest

    The man should have NEVER gotten into anyone else's personal vehicle. Period. I don't care where it was parked. He should have called the police to have them come and ask him to move it. Or maybe walk around and try to find the commanding officer on the scene to complain to. I understand he has a business and shouldn't have the driveway blocked, but unless he was having his own situation of life or death he should not have gotten into that person's vehicle and moved it himself.
     
  4. Slate

    Slate Well-Known Member

    as a passerby, I can say that yes, both were blocked. 42 was completely blocked off to all traffic and firetrucks were lined up from the corner of 42/50 to the other driveway that contained another emergency type vehicle.
     
  5. Tangerine

    Tangerine Well-Known Member

    Sounds like a cocky business owner that cares about nothing or no one but himself. Of course he's probably one that would complain because the firemen didn't get to his place quick enough if it was on fire. Some people just have no respect for anything.
     
  6. VolleyGirl

    VolleyGirl Guest

    Exactly. And I hope he's okay with broadcasting to all his potential customers that he has no problems getting into someone's personal vehicle and moving it. Totally inappropriate.
     
  7. GoWulfpack

    GoWulfpack Guest

    I disagree wholeheartedly. I would have done the same thing....especially if I had asked nicely and got some BS response.
     
  8. Steeler_Fan

    Steeler_Fan Well-Known Member

    :iagree:
     
  9. gcoats3

    gcoats3 Well-Known Member

    Why were keys left in the vehicle. So someone could move it or steal it?
     
  10. dapperdan

    dapperdan Guest

    You're absolutely right Tangerine, as a bussiness owner I got no respect from the fireman. Like I said this was not the first time the stop lights have been out at 50/42, and it's not the first time 42 has been blocked off. But it is the first time it took so many people and so many emergency vehicles to direct traffic.I know firefighters are very valuable people and they risk their lives everyday for us, but that don't give them the right to be a *****.And it was just one, not the whole dept.And as I stated before,I asked nice, then when I got no respect, I handled it myself. My property,My right.
     
  11. VolleyGirl

    VolleyGirl Guest

    I think you'd feel different if some stranger got into your car and moved it himself no matter what the circumstance. Besides the fact that the "BS" response is only one side of the story. Anyway, the firefighter was much nicer than I would have been if someone got into my vehicle and moved it.
     
  12. VolleyGirl

    VolleyGirl Guest

    Is it really your right as a business owner to move someone's vehicle without asking them if it is on your property? If there is a law that allows this then my apologies. Could someone site it for me though? However, I don't think there is such a law that says you can get into someone's vehicle and move it. You could have called the police to have it towed. Again, if you can get into whatever vehicle you want as long as it is on your property and move it please show me where it says that. Taking matters into your own hands as a business owner should mean doing something legally. Not just what you perceive to be your right.
     
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  13. Hught

    Hught Well-Known Member

    I do not necessarily sympathize with the business owner, it could have been handled better.

    However, if you leave your car on my property with the keys in it and you are not in it, I can guarantee that I will move your vehicle if I damn well please.
     
  14. cvfdcaptain

    cvfdcaptain Well-Known Member

    it was the fire chiefs vehicle,, therefore it is classified as an emergency vehicle while on that EMERGENCY scene, size of the scene is determined by the IC (incident commander) get in any emergency vehicle, be it unauthorized, and see what the ramifications are!!!
     
  15. cvfdcaptain

    cvfdcaptain Well-Known Member

    also like i said in my earlier post, we are only getting one side of this story,, this topic will soon die out as well!!!
     
  16. Hught

    Hught Well-Known Member

    As I said, it could be handled better, and it is unlikely that this proprietor will ever get any of my business.

    If this was an official vehicle why didn't you folks press charges?

    My response was only regarding a non-official vehicle on my property.
     
  17. dapperdan

    dapperdan Guest

    The vehicle was not parked at the EMERGENCY SCENE. It was on private property next to an EMERGENCY SCENE.That is also why the state trooper that was flaged down by the fireman ask him to move it to the state right away. After he was asked to move it and didn't it became an issue of trespassing. So do you think he wants to press charges?
     
  18. kdc1970

    kdc1970 Guest

    Sounds like one ego-maniac meeting another one to me. I'd hate for one of you to get a "real" problem. :roll:
     
  19. GoWulfpack

    GoWulfpack Guest

    Had it been me, I a) wouldn't have blocked the entrance and b) would have asked the business owner to move it for me if I had to direct traffic (or whatever the reason was for not doing it). Clearly common sense was neglected in this situation.

    I am from another part of the state but I'm friends with several volunteer firemen back in my hometown. I respect all vol. firemen but unfortunately some of them want to take the role of the US Military when most of them couldn't last a week in basic training. Sure they are brave and deserve respect but they, for some reason, take it too far as this incident seems to illustrate. Now I know there are two sides to every story but I have seen "authority" abused by vol. firemen who want to pretend they are Navy Seals the first time a power line hits the ground. I'm sure 90% of them are just "good ole boys" but that 10% like those I'm describing unfortunately ruin their image in my opinion.

    So I can clearly envision an instance in which some Vol Fireman thinks he is swooping down like Superman to save the day but is merely redirecting traffic and wanted to use his "title" as means to throw a little authority around. Obviously flagging down a State Trooper over such a petty issue is a sure sign of someone looking for revenge of a meaningless act. Obviously the Trooper, who pulls a little more weight, wasn't impressed and for good reason.

    Next time....tell Bubba to park the pick up truck clear from the entrance and everything will be fine. This whole "he shouldn't have gotten in my truck" crap is nonsense and, according the the business owner, could have been avoided. Had he not asked and simply moved it then I might could see some fault.

    Again....common sense ain't too common these days.
     
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  20. VolleyGirl

    VolleyGirl Guest

    Yeah steretyping really sounds like respect to me.....:? (Emphasis added by me) This is a situation of two wrongs don't make a right. Nobody did the right thing. I just expect a business owner to conduct things professionally and not as some sort of cowboy who then comes on to the local discussion board bragging about how he "took matters into his own hands".
     

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