He is right, even considering in passing that Blus kknows anything about what he is posting or that it may have some connection to the context of the thread requires all suspension of logical thought.
Thanks, Whine. Coming from you, I might have to consider that a compliment. (nice spelling, by the way)
Dude, If you'd bothered to have closely read that thread, you'd have seen that I am in favor of protecting their right for free speech. The criteria that I use is: if it isn't pornographic, promoting violence or illegal acts, then - as distasteful as it may be - it's free speech.
Each one of those billboards is a couple of grand each. It's spending in a bad economy, who cares what they say? Don't be an idiot, just ignore it. Or are the churches afraid this may possibly sway some people to the other side? The day churches became non profit "businesses" was the day God stopped coming to services.
Nope, I believe we all would like free speech not just for you, but I can see where you would believe you were the only one who had the right to speak on many subjects. :mrgreen:
I never really pay attention to the whole atheist agenda. Those folks will suffer a fate much worse than anything I can do or say so I pay them no mind.
And their point is that you may find oblivion, nothing more. Each POV is as correct or incorrect as the other.
Here's how I look at it. I'd rather live my life as if there is a God and die and find out that there isn't, than to live it like there isn't a God and die and find out that there is.
I think that is great, for you. As my preacher said last month "I would rather be good for nothing". I know some will have a field day with that quote, the point being I don't need a reward in order to be a decent human being.
My personal problem is the probability of the God being different from that presented by the organized religions. There are so many of those religions and the ALL seem to porfess the only one and true way to God, which means there must be a lot of wrong ways out there. It kind of makes that simple choice much more complex. For example, if Islam is right the Christian and Jewish religion followers are going to have created a bad situation for themselves in not following God's word. The same for the various sects of the Christian and Jewish religions, which have the same probability of being the one true path. Of course, there is always the possibility no organized religion has the one true path and one does not need an organized religion at all, but just to live right. None will ever know until it is too late though.
And therein lies the weakness in Pascal's theory - he leaves out the possibility of belief in the wrong God, or the wrong way to God.
I did not want to only point out it was one of our typical logical fallacies here. :mrgreen: :cheers: http://www.fact-archive.com/encyclopedia/False_dilemma False dilemma The logical fallacy of false dilemma, also known as fallacy of the excluded middle, false dichotomy, either/or dilemma or bifurcation, is to set up two alternative points of view as if they were the only options, when they are not. Examples: Either creationism must be true or Darwin's theory of evolution must be true. Therefore, if it is shown that Darwin's theory is false, then creationism must be true. This argument is fallacious because its premise fails to recognize that there are many other possibilities than just Darwin's views and creationism. (If it were somehow proven that there were no other possibilities, then the logic would be sound. Until then, the argument is fallacious.) False dilemmas are also common in politics. They are often hidden in (rhetorical) questions, and then become akin to the fallacy of many questions, as in: Will you re-elect Lyndon Johnson, or face nuclear holocaust? Are you with us, or with the terrorists?
I respect your opinion. But to me, your answer means your faith in God is not true faith? You’re doing it for an assurance of acceptance. You said, "as if there is a God." Faith in God can't have an 'if' in it. It's a ‘yes there is’ or ‘no there isn’t.’ Your statement puts you in mythological purgatory. More or less you’re covering two possible paths with limited faith. Not believing if either is the correct path, while hoping for the best? I’ll live my life by Gods rules, but I don’t totally believe in Him. If God is that gullible, count me in on that answer.
