Covid 19

Makes one wonder why libertarians would support people costing the rest of us billions of dollars.

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org...st-the-u-s-health-system-billions-of-dollars/

Unvaccinated COVID-19 hospitalizations cost the U.S. health system billions of dollars

COVID-19 vaccines have been free and broadly available to adults in all states and District of Columbia since mid-April 2021, meaning adults in the U.S. have generally been able to be fully vaccinated for COVID-19 since late May 2021 if receiving a two-dose vaccine. COVID-19 vaccines are highly effective at preventing severe disease, hospitalization, and death from COVID-19 and also reduce the likelihood of mild or asymptomatic infection.

Despite the availability of safe and effective COVID-19 vaccines, vaccination rates have lagged, particularly in some states and among younger people. As of early August 2021, 28% of adults over the age of 18 in the U.S. remain unvaccinated for COVID-19. As a result of lagging vaccinations and the more infectious delta variant, COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are on the rise again.

These COVID-19 hospitalizations are devastating for patients, their families, and health care providers. The hospitalizations are also costing taxpayer-funded public insurance programs and the workers and businesses paying health insurance premiums.

While real-time data on the cost of all COVID-19 hospitalizations are not publicly available, various sources point to an average hospitalization cost of around $20,000. The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) reports that Medicare fee-for-service COVID-19 hospitalizations average $24,033. Another study of Medicare fee-for-service enrollees found an average COVID-19 hospitalization cost $21,752. A FAIR Health analysis of private claims data including employer and private Medicare Advantage plans found that COVID-19 hospitalization costs ranged from $17,094 for people over age 70 to $24,012 for people in their 50s. Similarly, our analysis of pre-pandemic private insurance claims for pneumonia hospitalizations with complications averaged $20,292 (though the cost for hospitalizations requiring a ventilator are much higher).

Our analysis of CDC data indicates there were 37,000 preventable COVID-19 hospitalizations in June and another 76,000 preventable COVID-19 hospitalizations in July, among unvaccinated adults in the U.S. We explain below more on how we arrived at these numbers.

If each of these preventable hospitalizations cost roughly $20,000, on average, that would mean these largely avoidable hospitalizations have already cost the U.S. health system billions of dollars since the beginning of June.

In June and July 2021, COVID-19 hospitalizations among unvaccinated adults cost the U.S. health system over $2 Billion

 

Mississippi ICU wards are 185% over-capacity right now. Ignorant people are asking for the vaccine as they are being intubated in hospitals. Sorry, it’s way too late for that, but you thought that you “knew better” than the medical professionals. Johnston County infection rates are some of the highest in counties across the state, while Orange County has the highest vaccination rate, the lowest infections, and also the highest population of educated people. So, yes, there is a definite correlation between lower intelligence and higher infection rates.

 

Yes, but, but, but…. “liberal-leaning” Libertarians are only concerned with “the poor”. LOL

 

Well….Bless your heart, Mark. Is that genuine “concern” for other people, I hear from you today? I’d say it’s just about a year and a half TOO LATE, but it’s better than NOTHING, I suppose! LOL

 

Oh here we go again ! Triggered. Lol.

 

Nope. Just pointing out that Mark must’ve had a “come to Jesus” moment today, because I distinctly recall him denying and minimizing this pandemic since the very beginning, and instead repeated those online disinformation stories on here daily, and almost verbatim, in real time. You just can’t deal with the truth, but then again, you never have! “Triggered”, huh? Damned fool can’t even come up with his own words, and got to repeat everything he hears like a trained parrot! There’s not one thought in your head that somebody else hasn’t put there! Just like these stupid unvaccinated people getting Covid!

 

Triggered. Again. Lol

 

So much for the concern over unapproved treatments ..... except when they hear about them on the internet ....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/26/arkansas-jail-dosing-inmates-ivermectin-covid

Covid: Arkansas jail dosing inmates with ivermectin in spite of FDA warnings
It is unclear if patients have been told that the de-worming drug is not an approved Covid treatment

Guardian staff and agencies
Thu 26 Aug 2021 10.52 EDT


Inmates at a north-west Arkansas jail have been prescribed a medicine for treating coronavirus that is normally used to deworm livestock, despite federal health warnings to the public in exasperated tones.

Washington county’s sheriff confirmed this week that the jail’s health provider had been prescribing the drug.

The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the federal drugs regulator, issued a warning via Twitter last weekend.

“You are not a horse,” it said. “You are not a cow. Seriously, y’all. Stop it.”

Sheriff Tim Helder did not say how many inmates at the 710-bed facility had been given ivermectin and defended the health provider that has been prescribing the medication.

“Whatever a doctor prescribes, that is not in my bailiwick,” Helder told members of the Washington county quorum court, the county’s governing body.

Helder did not immediately respond to a call from the Associated Press, and a spokesperson for the sheriff’s office referred questions to Karas Correctional Health, the jail’s health provider.

It is not clear what information inmates who were prescribed the drug have been given about it, including warnings that it is not approved to treat Covid.

The US FDA has approved ivermectin in both people and animals for some parasitic worms and for head lice and skin conditions. The FDA has not approved its use in treating or preventing Covid-19 in humans.

“Using any treatment for Covid-19 that’s not approved or authorized by the FDA, unless part of a clinical trial, can cause serious harm,” the FDA said in a warning about the drug.

Prominent rightwingers have been promoting the drug for Covid and public health officials have come under attack from some Republicans for urging Americans to get vaccinated against coronavirus.

Ivermectin has been touted by some Republican lawmakers in Arkansas as a potential Covid treatment.

Health officials in Arkansas and Mississippi this week warned people not to take the veterinary formulation of the drug after seeing an uptick in calls to their poison control centers.

Eva Madison, a member of the quorum court, called the use of the drug on inmates “disturbing”, noting that they were not in a position to seek a second opinion from physicians about its use.

“Are we allowing him to effectively experiment on our detainees at our jail with no oversight?” Madison said.

Karas Correctional did not immediately return a message left on Wednesday morning. Helder said Karas informed him of the drug’s use in July, the Northwest Arkansas Democrat-Gazette reported.

Helder said on Tuesday night that the jail has had zero inmate deaths from the coronavirus, and jail officials said inmates had also been offered the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Arkansas criticized the distribution of the drug to inmates and said it was seeking additional records from the sheriff’s office and the health provider.

“They need to stop this practice immediately,” ACLU of Arkansas’s executive director, Holly Dickson, said.

None of the jail’s inmates administered ivermectin were state prisoners being held by the facility, the state department of corrections said. The department and its medical services provider are not providing ivermectin to any of its inmates, spokeswoman Cindy Murphy said.

 

LOFL @ ACW,,, When all else fails,,
Stupid quote tactics.

 

You always fail so why not use your own fails to highlight those fails.

 

Jesse is the self-confessed liberal-leaning, Libertarian, not me.

 

I don't get triggered by anything, I just shake my head when I read nonsense.

On other news.
https://www.ocregister.com/2021/08/...te-saying-he-is-naturally-immune-to-covid-19/

Doctor challenges UC system’s vaccine mandate, saying he is ‘naturally immune’ to COVID-19
'Forcing those with natural immunity to be vaccinated introduces unnecessary risks without commensurate benefits,' says Dr. Aaron Kheriaty of UCI

 

d w k has her issues with lying all the time.
Her driveway doesn’t quite reach the road either

 

Another of the "experts" you like to bring up to try to create uncertainty? Maybe grasping at straws like this shows your true intentions better than you think ... along with you lack of understanding. I shake my head when you post in ignorance.

Dr. Aaron Kheriaty, a professor of psychiatry and human behavior at the UCI medical school,

 

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...greater-immunity-vaccine-no-infection-parties

The natural immune protection that develops after a SARS-CoV-2 infection offers considerably more of a shield against the Delta variant of the pandemic coronavirus than two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, according to a large Israeli study


https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210810/Natural-vs-vaccine-induced-COVID-19-immunity.aspx

Immunity following natural infection
Some high-quality studies show that the rate of reinfection in the six months after natural infection was much lower than that which occurred in naïve people.

 

You must be shaking your head all day long then, when you not only read nonsense, but write it too:

That was the Lord’s Prayer turned into gibberish, and posted by Jesse last January.

 

So, now Jesse is quoting a psychiatrist, who is pretending to be an “authority” in immunology and epidemiology. The psychiatrist, Dr. Kheriaty is also affiliated with the Napa Institute, a Catholic organization that masquerades as an “intellectual think-tank”, but follows conspiracy theories and disseminates other Covid propaganda.

 

An unpublished study that also found:

The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and then received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated.

and ...

The research impresses Nussenzweig and other scientists who have reviewed a preprint of the results, posted yesterday on medRxiv. “It’s a textbook example of how natural immunity is really better than vaccination,” says Charlotte Thålin, a physician and immunology researcher at Danderyd Hospital and the Karolinska Institute who studies the immune responses to SARS-CoV-2 . “To my knowledge, it’s the first time [this] has really been shown in the context of COVID-19.”

Still, Thålin and other researchers stress that deliberate infection among unvaccinated people would put them at significant risk of severe disease and death, or the lingering, significant symptoms of what has been dubbed Long Covid. The study shows the benefits of natural immunity, but “doesn’t take into account what this virus does to the body to get to that point,” says Marion Pepper, an immunologist at the University of Washington, Seattle. COVID-19 has already killed more than 4 million people worldwide and there are concerns that Delta and other SARS-CoV-2 variants are deadlier than the original virus.

All approved vaccines have shown the ability to induce neutralizing antibody titers comparable to those which are elicited by natural infection, or higher.