Covid 19

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  1. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    Par for the course for NJ2NC .... either a stupid meme or youtube ... because reputable sources do not give support to his ignorance.
     
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  2. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/nc...QmVWHhxOjj0aaXIxGa3jEgkPmXWiyNRhBG3Xf0GdlzfYY

    The North Carolina of Department Health and Human Services will begin reporting coronavirus reinfection information starting in October, in compliance with new guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    As the more infectious delta variant has become more prominent, the number of refinections has surged, according to state health officials.

    Since the start of the pandemic, 10,812 people became reinfected with coronavirus and 94 of those people died. Only 200 people who were vaccinated and previously infected tested positive for the virus a second time.

    Infectious disease expert with the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Dr. David Wohl said that this new data shows just how effective vaccinations are.

    "It says the vaccine works great," he said, about the new data. "Almost 11,000 cases of reinfection and really a sliver, a fraction of those people were fully vaccinated."

    The majority of people who reported being reinfected with coronavirus were between 25- and 49-years-old, state data shows. The majority of infections were among White women, though the state emphasized reinfection data is underreported particularly in people who are Hispanic.

    A reinfection is classified by the CDC as someone who tests positive for coronavirus 90 days after previously testing positive.

    This data falls in line with what health experts have been touting since the development of vaccines — being previously infected with the virus does not make someone immune to getting sick again.

    Wohl, said these numbers show people who are vaccinated are more protected from reinfection than people who are relying on natural antibodies from an earlier COVID-19 case.

    "It will help us understand more and more the risk people who are relying on natural infection have, and I think this data will show us that there’s certainly some folks, especially with these new variants and during surges, who think they’re protected, who may not be as protected as they could be," Wohl said.

    He added that immunity after getting sick from the virus tends to wane at around 3 months.

    While coronavirus cases continue to decline, the number of deaths per capita is rising. A new report from the CDC says coronavirus-related deaths in North Carolina have increased by 145% since last week.

    "Even though you survived COVID-19 once, doesn't mean you won't get it again," Wohl said.

    The reinfection rates are similar to that of the common coronavirus cold, according to Alex Dornburg, University of North Carolina at Charlotte Assistant Professor. He worked with Yale University researchers on the recent report that the state health department published.

    "Sometime over a year would be completely reasonable and completely expected," for someone to become infected again, he said.

    "It’s similar to the way we get seasonal colds year after year," Dornburg said. "We don’t have long-term immunity."

    Cameron Jackson, a travel nurse currently working in Johnston County, said she was infected with the virus twice. Her second infection was much more mild than her first.

    "It’s basically everywhere. It’s at the hospital, it’s at the grocery store," she said. "There’s no running away from it."

    Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's leading infectious disease expert, addressed the idea of "natural" immunity in a White House COVID-19 Task Force meeting on Sept. 28.

    Fauci said that herd immunity will not be able to be achieved through "natural infection," or the immunity that one's body develops after being infected from the virus. The solution to the pandemic, he said, is to get the shot.

    "Herd immunity is really a complicated issue of protection by vaccination and those who have continued endurable protection following infection," Fauci said. "We do not know what that number is right now."

    Compared to the rest of the country, North Carolina is lagging behind in vaccination rates. More than 37 states have better vaccination rates than North Carolina.
     
  3. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

  4. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

  5. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

    And from the same CDC site you posted indicating that Covid deaths in 2020 were the THIRD leading cause of death in the US. That’s a significant ranking number that shouldn’t be taken lightly.

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  6. BobF

    BobF Well-Known Member

    What we will (fortunately) never know is what the number of deaths would have been in 2021 had the vaccination rate remained at 0%.
     
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  7. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

    Also from the CDC site which explains “provisional death” counts which may differ from other sources:

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  8. DWK

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  9. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

    Even at 2%, that is a A LOT of interviews to fill all those positions. Most companies say that hiring someone and retraining them costs the company $30-60k per position. At 2200 that is $66M on the low side.
     
  10. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    Getting sued for not mitigating a known threat to patients can be a lot more expensive though.
     
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  11. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/c...0211006-srubyenoujenvkd5igalidruwm-story.html

    Maryland man allegedly fatally shot his pharmacist brother for ‘killing people’ with the COVID vaccine, court records show
    By JESSICA ANDERSON
    BALTIMORE SUN |
    OCT 06, 2021 AT 4:51 PM

    A Cumberland man allegedly killed his brother and sister-in-law in their Ellicott City home last week because his brother, a pharmacist, administered COVID-19 vaccines, according to charging documents filed Wednesday in a Howard County court.

    Jeffrey Burnham told his mother he had to confront his older brother, Brian Robinette, because he was poisoning people by administering the COVID-19 vaccine, telling his mother, “Brian knows something,” according to the new charging documents filed against Burnham.

    Burnham is being held without bond in Allegany County, where he is charged with stabbing Rebecca Reynolds, 83, to death inside her Cumberland home on Sept. 29. Police said he took her car and fled to Ellicott City, where a day later he killed Robinette, 58, and his wife Kelly Sue Robinette, 57. He faces first and second-degree murder charges in the couples’ deaths.

    Burnham, 46, was captured last week in West Virginia following an 18-hour search.

    According to the charging documents filed against Burnham related to the Howard County murders, Burnham told another unnamed person that his brother was “killing people with the COVID shot.”

    Burnham’s mother Evelyn Burnham previously expressed concerns about her younger son’s mental health. In charging documents filed against Burnham in Reynolds’ death in Allegany County, Evelyn Burnham called Cumberland police twice last week because of her son’s “mental stability” after he made statements about the FBI “being after” them both.

    She told police in one call that her son lived with her and kept a security system in his bedroom at their home, police wrote in the documents.

    Evelyn Burnham called police again Sept. 30, concerned about her son’s talk of “Becky’s car,” referring to Reynolds, a friend of hers since childhood. Police have said Burnham stole Reynolds’ Lincoln and drove to Ellicott City.

    Reynolds was found dead inside her home with a deep laceration across her throat and a pillow over her face, the charging documents said. Police indicated there were signs of a struggle, noting a broken vase, cordless phone and cane on the floor near where Reynolds was found.

    The Robinettes were found fatally shot in an upstairs bedroom in their home on Kerger Road. A gun also was recovered from the home, according to the charging documents. Reynolds’ vehicle was found parked less than half a mile from the home, and the Robinettes’ 2007 red Corvette was missing.

    Police later found Brian Robinette’s cellphone off the exit ramp of Route 100, headed to Interstate 95 north. An E-ZPass connected with the Corvette reported that the car went through the toll plaza at the Baltimore Harbor Tunnel at about 8:30 a.m. Sept. 30, the charging documents said.
    The same day, an unidentified “tipster” called Maryland State Police, alerting them that Burnham returned to Cumberland shortly before 5 p.m. Sept. 30, driving his brother’s Corvette. Burnham asked the person for gas and told them “he would see him on TV,” the charging document said.

    Burnham expressed concerns to this person about his brother administering the COVID-19 vaccine, which Burnham said was “killing people,” the charging document said. Robinette graduated from the University of Maryland Baltimore School of Pharmacy in 1986, according to a school annual report.

    Burnham was arrested Oct. 1 at The Billy Motel & Bar in Davis, West Virginia, after flagging down a firefighter, and told him he “had been forced to kill three people.”

    He was extradited back to Maryland Tuesday. He remains held without bond in Allegany County.

    Howard County State’s Attorney Rich H. Gibson Jr. declined to comment on the pending case Wednesday. Calls to the Allegany County State’s Attorney’s Office were not returned.

    Burnham did not have an attorney listed in court records.
     
  12. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    'Vaccine mandates are proving to work,' doctor explains
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    ALEXIS CHRISTOFOROUS
    October 8, 2021

    A growing number of employers across a wide array of industries in the U.S. are issuing COVID-19 vaccine mandates, and early evidence shows they are quickly increasing inoculation rates among workers.

    “Vaccine mandates are proving to work,” Dr. Steven McDonald, an emergency medicine physician in New York City told Yahoo Finance Live.

    “Many people are hesitant, and we’re seeing that no amount of coaxing from the medical community and friends and family is working. It’s the mandate that’s nudging people over that line,” he said.

    In New York, 92% of the states's more than 625,000 hospital and nursing home workers are now vaccinated against COVID-19 after a mandate resulted in a 10% jump in the vaccination rate in just one week among those workers.
    Still, some skeptical health care workers are choosing dismissal over vaccination. New York State's largest health care provider, Northwell, fired 1,400 employees or 2% of its workforce this week, for refusing to get the shot.

    United Airlines (UAL), which became the first major carrier to require the vaccine, announced last week that 99.5% of its workforce got at least one jab.

    When Tyson Foods (TSN)announced a mandate in early August, less than 50% of its employees had been vaccinated. Now, that number has climbed above 90%, with three weeks to go before the Nov. 1 deadline.

    On Wednesday, leaders in Los Angeles approved one of the nation’s strictest vaccine mandates. Beginning Nov. 4, patrons and workers at bars, restaurants, nail salons, gyms, even at Lakers games, must show proof of vaccination.

    The L.A. Lakers’ general manager Rob Pelinka said his team will be fully vaccinated by opening night against the Golden State Warriors on Oct. 19.
    Even NBA star Andrew Wiggins, who refused to get vaccinated after his application for a religious exemption was denied by the league, has gotten the shot.

    Last month, Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said it could take “many, many” more vaccine mandates to get the pandemic under control.

    “We’re seeing real success stories,” McDonald said. “It’s an incredible win for vaccines.”
     
  13. Wayne Stollings

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  15. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

    NC case rates continue to drop at a fast rate. Now the same 7-day average as mid-July 2021.

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  16. jesse82nc

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  17. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    I just read an account from a nurse that says it all .....

    Thank you for sharing this. All the nasty people on here who think this is ok have killed many people. This type of person is why General Colin Powell is dead. While he is a high profile case I have lost too many of my patients with blood cancers because of this not believing science attitude!! Yes, we encourage all blood cancer patients to be vaccinated for everything and I’ve never personally had a non compliant patient. But for many years before Covid we would say to the patients, we are going to give you a flu vaccine but we can’t predict how much response you will have so it is crucial that those around you also get vaccinated for the flu and you need to wear a mask during flu season etc. I’ve never had push back. NEVER! Not from patient, family, friends, their communities. People always jumped in to help.

    Along comes COVID and the recommendations didn’t change. EXACT same recommendations but because of an Orange con man all these people decided to make basic, common medical recommendations a political statement. So, you are killing people who were thriving while living with cancer. Aren’t you all so proud??? What a decent member of society you are!!

    We have finally reached a point where those with cancer even blood cancer can experience periods of remission. Cancer patients can finally LIVE with metastatic disease and they can live a good life. Working and going to school. Yet, “freedom” “anti-science” Trump worshipers are killing them off. I cannot wit you cruel and selfish people.
     
  18. BuzzMyMonkey

    BuzzMyMonkey Well-Known Member

    Misguided politically biased op-ed
     
  19. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

     
  20. BuzzMyMonkey

    BuzzMyMonkey Well-Known Member

    You really are this stupid. Sucks for you.
     

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