Grandmother and child killed during police chase

If you disagree with me, so be it. Playing cutesy word games is not my cup of tea.

 

Exactly.

 

Did you even think about it? Or did you just post a knee-jerk reaction?

"The deceased" include the 11 year old.

 

There were two drivers in play here and only they are capable of being at fault. I find it hard to believe anyone for a second could confuse or suggest my statement about fault could have been aimed to include an 11 year old passenger.

This is all about nickpicking a statement because you simply disagree with my position on this issue. I must admit it's not surprising given those involved.

 

Trooper had no business running 120 mph to run down someone doing 80 in an area where cross traffic was possible. So he was going to proceed through an intersection at 90-120 mph?

 

This is not looking good for the police, happening 3 days after this article was posted:
High-Speed Police Car Chase Fatalities Spiking in North Carolina

I don't see the necessity in high speed chases. If there is a .000000001% chance that a bystanders life is in danger than it shouldn't be allowed. People shouldn't die to catch a speeder who will only loose their license and pay a fine if caught. Too little to gain for the possible cost.

 

If this had not been a grandmother and her grandchild would there even have been a thread started on this? I wonder. I also agree with what KDC as well as KDS are saying. You can't jump to conclusions about who is at fault right now without more investigation and it's not fair to condemn the cop simply because tragically the grandmother and child were killed. It is possible that she was not in the right either. However, if he was going 120 you can't have too much control of your car and there should be a rule about max speeds during a chase even if he was within standard procedure and not technically doing anything wrong.

 

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I wasn't going to comment on this but I had too.

At 120 MPH it takes 1 second to travel 176 feet. That's more than half a football field in 1 second. If the officer was a football field away when she saw him, she had 1.7 seconds to respond. I guess you're superman and can respond at that speed?

A vehicle traveling 120 MPH with a siren activated will not be heard by a stationary vehicle until the siren is 1.333 seconds away. If your radio is on, even at low volume, cut that time in half. Again you must have superman hearing.

 

I don't know how the HP does it, but in Raleigh you have to get permission from a superior to engage in a chase and then the superior calls the shots on when it gets called off etc. (They rarely let anyone chase in Raleigh). So if the HP guidelines say that 120 is acceptable and his superior gave the ok for the chase then the officer was only doing what within the guidelines of his job. That being said, I think if they don't have the limits on speeds for chases they need to have them. You can't control a car at 120. At least I couldn't!

 

Umm She failed to yield. That's why it's her fault.

 

Standard procedure in a chase is is to stay back in busy areas but stay within visual. The cool part is the person who thinks he got away is facing man slaughter charges.

 

No ..... you did not say that???????????

 

Was that bad? He or she is sitting back right now probably thinking they got away with a police chase. They do have onboard video, guaranteed befor the chase even occured they had the car info.

 

I don't think it's "cool" that an 11 year old is dead..... and ..... it lays justice to charge a criminal for her death. I'm thinking you just mis-word your post?

 

I wonder if this really was a chase? Could this have been a situation where the trooper had whipped a U-turn and was building speed to initate a stop and was perhaps a bit overzealous with his Hemi Charger? If this was the case, then the person who was to be stopped may not have even realized what was happening behind them.

 

It's amazing how everyone has fixated on the 120 mph. The media, the people here, and everyone seems to have either overlooked or not read this part here

Also from the same article the speeder was doing 80 MPH in the same zone so it could have been just as easy for the speeder (whom it is doubtful is trained in high speed driving) to have hit the car and killed the two people.

As well as the fact that based on the pictures I've seen of the area it is not a populated commercial/residential area, much more of a rural/wooded stretch of road like what you would see on I-40 heading towards the coast east.

 

From your own link.

Three of the 4 examples listed were all breaking the law.....two of which were due to people speeding to ELUDE the police.......doesn't exactly make a solid case against high speed pursuits.

 

Now Dan. Where did I say it was cool a kid died? Now read what I posted again. It was referencing the fleeing subject who caused the chase to begin with.