Henry Gates Jr. ........this just keeps getting better.....

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by Salvation, Jul 27, 2009.

  1. VolleyGirl

    VolleyGirl Guest

    I'm not disputing that. It's what she said to the officer when he arrived and you don't hear on the radio. I don't believe in the report that it says anywhere that the call came out as two blacks. It was not until he got to the scene that the witness said anything about the men being black. It's there in the report and where it becomes a he/said she said unless there was a third person present.
     
  2. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    The police report does say she told him she saw "what appeared to be two black males" etc. But that is inconsistent with what she said in the 911 call, and as far as I know she had not had any further opportunity to observe them after she made the call. Anyway, even though she was the catalyst in a way by making the phone call, I think she was an innocent bystander to whatever happened afterwards. If one of my neighbors saw me trying to break into my own house, I would hope they would recognize me, but if not, I guess I would want them to call the police. But that was my point, really, that the woman does not deserve to be vilified for making the call. Nothing to do with anything that happened between Gates and Crowley.
     
  3. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    But what does it matter if she said that or not? I just don't get how that fits into the whole picture.
     
  4. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    I do not. I wait to see what the independent evidence brings. It seems that evidence does not support your "rat smell" very well so far.
     
  5. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    She was already on record clearly stating one was probably Hispanic and that she did not see the second person, so what would be the reason for her to change her statement to the policeman on site? You say the policeman had no reason to believe anything would come of this, so why would the woman feel the need to make such a change?
     
  6. lgb0250

    lgb0250 Well-Known Member

    Get over it. The only one here upset about it is you!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. seabee

    seabee Guest


    LOL... thats really telling him... :lol::lol:
     
  8. Salvation

    Salvation Well-Known Member

    Think about it......


    She changed her story because she was threatened by many people. They threatened to kill her. that is every reason for a woman to change her story.

    Notice it was AFTER the death threats over the weekend that this lady 'lawyered up' and now speaks only through her lawyer.

    She has plenty of reason to change her story.

    The cop had no reason to change his story at all and has been consistent since day one. Lastly, no where in a search of his career can there be any precedent found that he has acted in a racist manner. In fact, he co-chairs a class on diversity and gave CPR to a black NBA player.....this does not define the actions of a racist.

    All of your great profilers of the past and present demand that 'motive' be identified. Now you weigh the two stories and use your common sense.....motive screams to be seen. Death threats would probably change 75% of the opinions in this Country........especially if the issue was big enough for a sitting President to comment on.

    Think about it.

    :)

    SAL
     
  9. Jester

    Jester Well-Known Member

    What is one of the biggest obstacles in combating crime? Public intervention. What does this say to people who simply try to make a difference? It sets a precedent of good reason why NOT to become involved if witnesses are subjected to strong-arm tactics.
     
  10. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    The INITIAL call to 911 was clear there was one person which appeared to be Hispanic and one whom she could not see. What "death threats" caused her to change her story between that call and the police showing up? Please feel free to give all of the explanation you need/

    Which means nothing to the 911 call or anything else.

    She has not, but her story and the police officer's do not jibe.

    And her's has not? His version of her story was all that was given and the 911 call doesnot support that story very well. Why would she tell the 911 operator one was Hispanic and that she could not see the second well enough and then change to two black men when the police officer got there? She said she never spoke with him and his description of her does not support his claim either. It would appear she has given a consistent statement all along but that his version has not been completely truthful.


    If you assume the reason for the confrontaiton was racial, which may or may not have been the case. There was a confrontation and the official report seemed to support the officer after the fact. With the closer review it seems that may not have been a factual report after all.

    Yes, motive screams out. An officer who let his ego get the better of him and allowed the situation to get out of control enough where he arrested a man and needed to tweak the information to support his position would never be a possibility either? :confused:

    I have and without the preconceived notion either side set out to do anything prior to the initial contact.
     
  11. Shadow Rider

    Shadow Rider Well-Known Member

    Just because the policeman may have put it down wrong in his report, that doesn't make him a racist. Maybe a liar, maybe someone trying to cover his tracks, but not a racist.

    Could very well be the reason though that charges got drop, before Obama even came into play. The police commissioner may have heard the 911 tapes, heard the woman not identifying the suspects as black, saw the report where the policeman claimed she did, and figured they would get their arses tore up in court.
     

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