How do we find out about EOG scores?

I know the answer to this one as it happened to one of mine. Here's the deal. You can only retain a child 1 time in elementary, 1 in middle and one time in highschool. So, say your child wasn't quite ready to go on from kindergarten or 1st or whatever ot the next grade. They are retained. That can only happen once so therefore, it doesn't matter what they make or whehter they pass the EOG's in elementary school from there out. If they don't know the material, they are passed through anyhow. riduculous, isn't it?! So, if your child has been retained, they will not have to ever retake the EOG's in elementary whether they failed it or not.

Also, if your child fails for the second time on the EOG, that does NOT mean they fail the grade. Just means you go to a waiver committee and base it on their grades/ school performance.

Again, I'm not happy about the whole deal. I just got off the phone w/ another teacher regarding summer school. Trying to get my son in as he just is a little behind and would probably catch up and benefit immensely from it. Nope. I think I'm more stressed out than the kids right now--LOL. Good luck w/ it all. Hey, any questions, I've probably been in a similiar situation at one point or another. Congrats to all those parents whose kids passed.


Good luck all.

Stephanie--mom to 7

 

Thanks for the information Stephanie. I'm going to PM you.......

 

Was that in Virgina?

 

No news is good news. Teachers are required to call if a child fails the EOG/EOC but not if he/she passes. Some teachers enjoy giving good news, so they call either way! I guess it depends on how many students you have to call! You will receive something in writing usually with report cards.

 

Yep! I guess if they didn't pass they were SOL! LOL

 

thanks-I got the letter

Thank you all for your help-I got the letter in DS's folder today. He did fine-whew! Sure wish we knew the parts they struggled with though-I think it would also be helpful for teachers next year to know where they need improvement. I mean-take the scores and do something useful with them!

 

I didn't get any phone calls from the school so I decided to contact his teacher thru Email and she immediately responded back to me, stating that our child passed the EOG. She said a big congrats and how much she proud of our child. I printed the Email and showed it to my child at his athletic practice - boy, you should see he was "jumping with joys" and told his team mates about it.

 

So... what if your child passed each nine weeks and then failed an EOG - they think they don't know the material? Maybe they just don't know how to "bubble", maybe they don't test well like that, or maybe... lots of other maybes. I personally do not take much stock in the EOGs.

 

I whole-heartedly agree Cleo. When I was younger, I did horrible on my tests(too nervous) and even my SAT's. Horrible. Went to college and was #1 in my department as far as grades and such. So no, I don't value test taking that well. I'm lucky my parents didn't either. My sister did way better on tests than me. Go figure. Too much anxiety for me. She's more calm, cool and collected. Of course my SAT scores could be that the night before we had gone to an Oktoberfest (lived in Germany during highschool)---LOL. -- a bunch of bad test takers that day!

It is ashame that so much is placed on the test instead of just doing what they used to and teaching material. Maybe things will change but w/ the NCLB act, I don't think so.

stephanie--mom to 7

 

Teachers do get that information for the next school year. Unfortunately, it's on a grade level basis, not on a child to child basis. Therefore, they only use it to improve their instruction. It's not something you will find out, although I assume a teacher would have already told you what your child is having trouble with. The EOG shouldn't have to do that.

Now let me vent: I do not teach the test, I teach the standard course of study. I meet students' needs through their strengths, and I challenge students' weaknesses. Every child in my classroom passed- -I had 6 students on the move, meaning they grew from one achievement level to another. I do not like to be grouped with all teachers, because all teachers are not created equally. My students learn how to be successful in life, not how to be successful on the test. It frustrates me also that teachers feel it is the only way, but I also like to point out that all teachers are not the same.

 

Can someone please explain the EOG's to me in simple terms? My son will be in 3rd next year and I don't know much about them. Do they have to pass the test in order to move up? Or if they're passing but fail the test by a few points, do they have to/get to take it again? Or do they have to pass the test no matter what to move up? Also, in 3rd, how many EOG's are there and what classes? Thankfully my son is very good at math, comes naturally, but not so good at reading. Also, how long do they last, is it all in one day, or are they spread out? He has a hard time sitting still for very long at one time, that's the only thing I worry about...

 

Woman, how many times have I told you!!! GOOGLE is your friend, for EVERYTHING...Google 'NC EOG's' :mrgreen:

 

If everyone on here used google, we wouldn't have a forum, now would we?

I like to hear people's opinions and experiences, google isn't going to give me that, except to find people's opinions and experiences on a forum similar to 4042.com!!!!! And I don't know if it's county wide or state wide, and since this is a local forum I thought it would be a good place to find local information from people who are local!!! geesh!

 

umm, no actually that link will lead you to the NC School site explanation of the EOG's....better than anyone's 'opinion'. you asked for specifics like 'what do they mean'? how long? and all your other specific questions....

you're welcome

 

DMJmom-the EOGs are spread over 3 days-2 math and 1 reading. This year the reading did not apply to advancing to next grade-it will be used as a "baseline" for the years to come. You do have to pass both math and reading to advance to the next grade. There are a whole lot of guidelines for if you fail (retake, etc) that I don't know and so can't get into.

DS took it for the first time this year. He was a little nervous as he picked up on the importance of it. Nothing wrong with knowing something is important-just feel there is a fine line there with a 3rd grader. It does last 2-4 hours each day but they get breaks and the rest of the day they just relax and do fun things.

To prepare DS I really did not mention the test-they do enough of that at school. I did try and work over some things that I knew he was weak in-just a few minutes here and there for several weeks. I also tried to teach him how to take a test-I feel this is very important.

3rd grade was a very big adjustment for DS-not just the EOGs. More homework, tests, in class required work, time management etc. He is a very typical boy (not trying to sound in any way condesending or negative) and I am happy for that but heard a LOT of complaining. Start your next year out by having guidelines for doing homework, studing for tests, etc. DS did just fine on the EOGs. I'm sure your son will also. Keep an eye on how he does through the year and if he has concepts he struggles with spend some extra time on those.

I still think the importance placed on EOGs is way outta control. I don't like tests that I cannot see what was missed and use to go back and work on. DS did take a number of pre-tests to see how he would perform on EOGs-he did not do as well on the "real" test as he did on the pretests. So-what's the difference-test environment, actual test harder? If we really wanted to see the children learn the concepts we would have a test breakdown to see if they totally blew one concept or if questions missed were from many different ones. How hard would it be to get that info?

Good luck!

 

NCmom - thank you so much for that, it's exactly what I was looking for!! :mrgreen:

 

DMjmom
if you fail the test..you are given a chance to take it over. If you fail again but the teacher can show that they are doing the work and getting the jist of the lessons they will more than likely promote the child to the next grade. Some kids freak on tests and just can't take them. ESpecially at the young age they start the EOG's at. My DD struggles with math all year then comes the EOG's... i freak she panics and then passes wtih flying colors.... so we have learned to review and discuss but not to go into panic mode and she tries as much as she can an we leave it at that.