I think she's implying that all behavioral and learning problems come from bad parenting, just as I'm implying, tongue in cheek, that all blonde hair comes from a bottle. Obviously we are both wrong.
I think what he is saying that if you are a parent and take the roll of the parent, your kid won't have problems. Where was all this medicine while we were all growing up? I didn't need it, I had the fear of my father to deal with. I don't really have an opinion on this matter, I am just thinking about what lind wrote. With my child there is a price to everything.( You just have to figure out what that is, Ex: car, video games etc.) You mess up, there are consequences and they have to be followed through. You can't be a childs friend or feel sorry for them. I do not know enough about the ADD stuff.
Not saying that if you are a parent instead of a friend that your child will not have problems. Im saying that its the fashionable thing to do to get kids dopped up because they throw tantrums, or dont do well in school etc...
It just shows the level of ignorance of a person who has no experience in this matter. I do feel that our society looks for that magic pill to cure everything. In some cases medication is needed. Mental health is a very tough subject if you don't suffer from it or have a loved one who does.
Ben, that wasn't directed at you. I can't stand people who open their mouths and speak their opinions on subjects they have know experiences dealing with this. It's one thing to ask questions, but to make a broad comment like "I don't believe in ADD" , just makes me upset. Until you walk in another man's shoes you have no right to cast an opinion on that man.
You are saying that i can not have an opinion or a belief? Thats fine. No problem there. I dont believe in the tooth fairy. Is that belief ok with you?
I am not trying to turn this thread into a war guys, nor a pissing contest. I have an idea for those of us that have children that have ADHD, since there are no support groups in this area...how about we start one? We can get together every so often and share stories, tips, ideas, and the parents can get together and maybe share a few laughs along the way. Whaddaya think? There seems to be a lot of you guys on this thread, so what could it hurt>? If your children are anything like mine, my son is not very popular in school because he has such a hard time sometimes, our kids could get together and be around kids who have just as hard a time as they do. No offense to anyone, I only know how my son is. ok, I'll quit babbling now...... :lol: Thanks for the hugs girl....(it made me cry) That was very nice of you.
I have a friend that has a child that has autism and some sensory problems, and just wondering if you have thought about food allergies. Her son would eat a sandwich and it would send him into a tail spin (so to speak) she had him tested and found out he was allergic to wheat. check out a book by Doris Rapp called Is this your child. Twitch
Twitch, That's an interesting point about food allergies. I am amazed at how often I see kids with ADHD who also have allergies and asthma. Dr. John Taylor, an expert on treating ADHD believes that diet plays a significant role with ADHD symptoms, particularly, food additives (colorings and preservatives) making the symptoms much worse. Some of his ideas on this topic are not necessarily accepted by other experts, but he recommends a healthy diet, limiting food additives and sweets. What's the harm in that? And it may be helpful. For more info on Taylor, go to www.add-plus.com. I'd highly recommend his "Survival Guide." I have used some of his suggestions with clients and usually got very positive feedback from the parents. Snuffleufogous P.S. My apologies to Space Cowboy and to FrameMaMa for my "spaced out" remark. That was inappropriate.
I think it's a load of crap myself. When I was a kid, I was into EVERYTHING, couldn't sit sill for a second, always doing something (still the same today) and mammaharley didn't run to the dr and put me on pills because I was hyper. :wink: http://www.strattera.com/1_4_adult_adhd/screener.jsp?ccd=strdtc896&WT.srch=1 1. How often do you have trouble wrapping up the final details of a project, once the challenging parts have been done? NEVER! 2. How often do you have difficulty getting things in order when you have to do a task that requires organization? NEVER, you just do it and cross it of your list of "to do's" 3. How often do you have problems remembering appointments or obligations? NEVER, It's called a calander! :? 4. When you have a task that requires a lot of thought, how often do you avoid or delay getting started? Jump right in, I love a new tasks (postcard desings, quotes etc...) 5. How often do you fidget or squirm with your hands or your feet when you have to sit down for a long time? I figit all the time. I file my nails everyday, play with my hair, pet/brush the dog and cat. 6. How often do you feel overly active and compelled to do things, like you were driven by a motor? Always been that way. I have to be doing something or I'd be bored to death.
To be honest, I don't think MOST children who have been diagnosed ADD/ADHD have any problems other than they've never been taught organizational/focusing skills. HOWEVER, because of these students being diagnosed incorrectly, the children who actually DO have ADD/ADHD have to fight the battle to have people realize there is something wrong! For instance: Many years ago there were 2 boys in my homeroom class. One's parents were highly educated, successful people. Their son made straight Bs in his classes. (Keep in mind that when grades are not inflated, a B stands for above average.) This was unacceptable to them. Therefore they searched SIX doctors before one diagnosed him as having ADD. Boom! The magic pill did NOT improve his grades, but they now had a "reason" he did not make principal's list! Another boy in the classroom came from a very different background. He was bright, but, when not taking his medication for ADHD, he literally shook from head to toe. (Try making your arms and hands tremble while trying to take notes, read, etc. That is what this child faced when not on the medication.) He made mostly Bs when he was correctly diagnosed and could actually sit still to focus. Of course, his parents were thrilled with the Bs! Here in Jo. Co., I watched in horror as one set of parents searched several psychologists to get their daughter diagnosed ADD. (Each doctor contacted the teachers to determine what symptoms we saw in our classes.) Their reason? She did not get high enough grades. The 98.3 in my science class "should be a 100." These parents expected perfection in everything and ended up with a zombie. Her creativity and sense of humor disappeared under the influence of the medication! My point? Don't say it doesn't exist. It does. Unfortunately, not everyone who has been labeled with this disorder actually has it. That hurts the children who really do have it since many people, like HG, don't believe it exists. Of course, it's in the best interests of the drug companies to have as many children diagnosed as possible...it's better for their bottom line!
I just think that doctors are too quick to say kids have it. The dr said my daughter had it, without any testing or anything, and wanted to put her on medication all because she was talking in class. :roll: I told him he was crazy and we never went back to that dr. And my daughter is just fine.
My point exactly. How much do you want to bet the doctor gets a kickback or perk every time he prescribes a certain medicine for ADD/ADHD from the drug company?
