Local thefts - What does Steve Bizzell do about it?

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by Salvation, Jun 28, 2008.

  1. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    LET GOD SORT 'EM OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. Salvation

    Salvation Well-Known Member

    Nope - Not Shoot em All

    See the immediate response is that you have a "bunch of rednecks who lack culture and want to shoot everyone that comes by". This is simply not true.

    The lack of ability to debate the issues always causes folks to stereotype and offer sarcasm vs. real solutions.

    Society (the thieves within a society) know that getting caught as a thief is just another trip downtown and unless you do it with a gun (stealing a car, robbing a bank) the truth is, you just won't get a lot time. A thief also knows that unless he is held by a citizen out in the County that his chances of walking off and getting away are high.

    I do not think having a city police changes anything.........no more than having the County Sheriff.

    We need to start by having good sound laws. Just like the silly DC gun ban that was smitten down last week, we need to have some more adjustments of 'silly law' like the ones that gives the thief more rights that the property owner. (exaggerated to make a point)


    No, I am afraid you are incorrect, if you honestly believe that the intent is to 'shoot 'em all'.

    The is a systemic problem and is much deeper than a gun and a 10 cent bullet.

    SAL
     
  3. zookeeper

    zookeeper Well-Known Member

    My dad had his ride around mower stolen about a month ago - it was in their lean-to not visible from the road and there was no key in it - so the perp(s) must have been checking the place out and came prepared.

    While reports were taken, it was a given that it was long gone.

    I don't blame the Sheriff, this is a huge county.

    I blame society in general. Morals are rock-bottom, kids steal because they have no conscience and because even if they get caught, nothing drastic is going to happen. You don't go to jail for stealing a lawn mower, the worst they'll get from a judge is some probation and they know it! Hell, even their parents aren't going to whoop their behinds - because we can't get physical with our children - they call it child-abuse these days. So why not go on out and steal what you need to get a few bucks, or make your way into some gang of punks?

    All I can say is if they attempt to go onto my dad's property to steal the new one which has a tow chain and a lock half the size of a freaking brick on it, my dad is going to shoot them - literally! While he used to be a pretty good shot, he's over 70 now - at his age, he might be a bit off and blow their stinking head off, rather than the leg he was aiming at - which would be no great loss to society IMHO.

    Come on my property to try and steal the stuff we've worked our behinds off for, and you'll face my dogs if I'm not home; if I am home, it'll be the dogs and me with a 9mm - and I think my aim would likely be as bad as my dads'.
     
  4. Texas man cleared in fatal shootings of suspected burglars

    http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-shoot1-2008jul01,0,6571056.story

    A grand jury decides not to indict Joe Horn, 62, after he killed two illegal immigrants who were leaving his neighbor's house.

    HOUSTON -- A grand jury here Monday cleared a Pasadena, Texas, man in the shooting deaths of two suspected burglars as they left his neighbor's house -- a case that stirred a national debate over whether he was a vigilante or a hero.

    Joe Horn, 62, shot the men on Nov. 14 after he called authorities and declared his intention to open fire on the suspects with his 12-gauge shotgun.

    The 911 audiotape captured multiple warnings by the dispatcher, asking Horn to stay inside and telling him that "property's not worth killing someone over." However, Horn grew agitated because the men looked to be getting away before police arrived. As the tape rolled, Horn went outside, shouted "Move, you're dead!" and fired his weapon.

    The incident in Pasadena, a city of about 140,000 east of downtown Houston, outraged some activists, who staged protests in the neighborhood.

    They argued that if Horn -- who was not arrested -- were not white and his victims not dark-skinned, he would have been taken to jail immediately.

    The controversy grew when authorities disclosed that the shooting victims, Diego Ortiz, 30, and Hernando Riascos Torres, 38, were illegal immigrants from Colombia.

    "Joe would be the first to tell you that he wasn't acting as a vigilante," Horn's attorney, Tom Lambright, said outside the Harris County Criminal Justice Center, where Horn testified before a grand jury for 40 minutes last week. "He wishes these individuals had found a different line of work so that he wouldn't have gotten caught up in this whole fiasco."

    Harris County Dist. Atty. Kenneth Magidson said that he understood "the concerns of some of those in the community regarding Mr. Horn's conduct," but added that the grand jury had thoroughly reviewed the evidence and testimony before deciding not to recommend any charges.

    Many defense lawyers had predicted that a grand jury indictment would be unlikely in Texas, where many citizens strongly believe in their right to fire weapons in defense of home and property.

    "This office will continue to aggressively prosecute anyone who illegally engages in the use of force, deadly or otherwise, against another," Magidson said in a statement. "In this case, however, the grand jury concluded that Mr. Horn's use of deadly force did not rise to a criminal offense."

    Horn, a computer consultant, reportedly received death threats after the shootings, even as some callers on talk radio were praising him as a courageous role model.

    He had expressed remorse about the shootings from the outset, and claimed that he was surprised when he ventured outside and saw how close the men were to him.

    Ballistics tests suggested that at least one of the men had been shot in the back, raising questions about Horn's story.

    But a plainclothes detective who witnessed some of what took place later told investigators that the men did not stop when a visibly nervous Horn pointed a shotgun in their direction, and that at least one man appeared to be moving toward Horn when Horn fired.

    Lambright, a friend of Horn's for four decades, said he found it hard to reconcile the shooter with the man he knew. He defended Horn's right to step out his door and confront the suspects, but added that he hoped other neighbors would never find themselves in Horn's shoes.

    "He is absolutely not the person you hear on that 911 tape," Lambright said of Horn. "Joe is quiet, humble."
     
  5. turtlepits

    turtlepits Well-Known Member

    Agree 100%. You come to my house and if the pit don't get you the end of a gun barrel will. It's called PROTECTING your home. Simple as that. If you don't have a key, then you shouldn't be there! BANG!
     
  6. ServerSnapper

    ServerSnapper Well-Known Member

    This thread is absolutely snobbishly boring. Thieves need love too.
     
  7. Cleopatra

    Cleopatra Well-Known Member

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