Man Sought For Questioning In Clayton Child's Death!

I just wanna say TIT4TAT. Maybe they should do the same to him that he did to his daughter....:evil:
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My view is somewhere between Blues and Hught. I believe this guy really snapped. Sounds like he had a legitimate mental episode. When he becomes sane again (possibly with medication) and realizes what he's done, he may be overcome with grief. I just don't see how that is a defense.

Give him some medications and counseling so he can regain his sanity ...then put him to death without a trial because we don't need people this insane living in our society.

 

Now see, that's where we differ. I think our Constitution means something. I think it's what our country is founded on, and what makes our country great.

 

I did a duty free lunch for one of the first grade teachers today. The boy sitting next to me was talking about it. It took me a minute to realize he was talking about his neighbor.


First grade - and can tell me about his "friend" whose "daddy cut her head off".




WHAT in the **** am I supposed to SAY to this child...:?:

I just hugged him and said -I know baby, it's so sad.

 

:-( That made me cry when I read that. I think you did the right thing and handled it well.

 

:cry:

 

If ya wanna cry a little harder go here and listen to Alyssa Lies

http://www.jasonmichaelcarroll.com/




OT - continued to another thread...

 

I used to have that song on my MySpace page, love it but can't listen to it sometimes.:-(

 

I Have No words

 

i am gonna have to wait till i get home to listen to it, this crying at work has gotta stop:cry:

 

I have been in shock over this. I first saw this on CNN News. I am at a loss for words.

My heart is broken for the mother she has so much to deal with. I hope the community can be very supportive, as I know it is.

I am at a loss for words...

 

That song is so sad because there are children like Alyssa out there!! The sad thing is that we usually don't know until it's to late or we don't heed the warning signs. This was just a terrible thing to happen. The father has to be crazy to do such a thing but thats certainly no excuse for his actions. He should be executed to assure he will never harm another person. If he's that insane society needs to be protected.

 

Father had been diagnosed with schizophrenia

Article in today's N&O. Maybe if father had not stopped his medication this would not have happened.

http://www.newsobserver.com/1500/story/538077.html

"His family then committed him to a psychiatric hospital. A month later, doctors sent him home with pills and a diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia, his sister recalled. He moved and talked more slowly, his sister said.

"He didn't seem like he was totally 100 percent," said Denise Violette.

At the time, Denise Violette doubted her brother had schizophrenia and didn't think he needed medicine. She urged him to stop taking the pills. He eventually did. As far as Denise Violette knows, that's the last time he took medicine to try to control his schizophrenia. It haunts her now that she encouraged him to quit."

 

My God, Who is she to tell him to stop taking the medication, she is not a doctor?

Ro

 

He suffered from paranoid schizophrenia...

MORE from today's N&O...
Family says beheading suspect is mentally ill
John Violette, accused of killing his daughter, had been diagnosed as paranoid schizophrenic, sister says

CLAYTON - A decade before police charged John Patrick Violette with beheading his 4-year-old daughter, he began battling an illness that planted strange voices in his head, his family said.
Violette's loved ones are now replaying every scene they can remember from a stretch of months in the mid-1990s when doctors at a mental hospital in California first told Violette and his family that he suffered from paranoid schizophrenia, his sister Denise Violette said.

"I look back and I think, 'We should have never let him out of that place,'" said Denise Violette, John's older sister who helped care for him during this time.

Schizophrenia -- a brain disorder that often causes victims to lose sense of reality and to hear and see things that aren't there -- struck Violette in his mid-20s, long before he married Amber Marks and fathered Katlin. It's unclear whether his wife of eight years even knew of his mental illness; Amber's father Thomas Marks has said that John's outbreak caught them all off guard.

As far as Violette's family can tell, John Violette, 37, somehow managed to quiet the turmoil in his head for the better part of a decade. Schizophrenia is sometimes marked by long stretches of seeming dormancy, only to erupt in dramatic, occasionally violent, breaks with reality, mental health experts say.

Erratic behavior

Police won't discuss whether Violette's mental illness motivated Katlin's slaying. Violette's lawyer, Robert Denning, says his client is mentally ill and asked a judge to send him to Dorothea Dix Hospital last week so psychiatrists can determine whether he is competent to stand trial for his daughter's murder.

"He doesn't seem to grasp what's going on," Denning said.

Neighbors saw John Violette act erratically on Jan. 12, the afternoon Katlin's mother came home and found her decapitated in the hallway of their Clayton home. He sped down the narrow lane of their subdivision, whipping the car into their driveway. Neighbor Diana Narron said she saw him rant angrily as he rushed to the front door, "like somebody was talking to him in his head and he was talking back." When U.S. marshals found him holed up in a Washington hotel room early the next morning, he was shouting scripture from the Bible's Book of Revelation.

His family said no other explanation for John Violette's behavior makes sense.

As a kid, John was always the gentle, tenderhearted one of the siblings, his sister said. He and his sisters were military brats, moving from state to state and abroad as the Army shuffled their father between bases.

The family eventually settled in California, where John Violette's parents later split.

John Violette loved working with his hands and apprenticed as a carpenter after high school, his sister said. He crafted fine wooden furniture and gave it to relatives.

John Violette also messed with drugs, though his sister never knew for sure which kinds. Denise Violette later blamed her brother's mental breakdown on his drug habit.

"I thought it all had to do with the bad choices he made," Denise Violette said. His family suspected a drug high when John Violette first started to unravel 11 years ago.

When Denise Violette visited her brother at his new home in Hawaii then, John Violette confided in her that men were following him. Denise Violette said she believed he might be in danger and urged him to come home to California.

When John Violette came home, he was panicked. He ducked in and out of bathrooms, hiding from people he imagined might be after him, Denise Violette said.

His strange behavior didn't relent. Later, he tried jumping from his brother-in-law's moving car, Denise Violette said.

The family ended up putting him in a drug rehabilitation program, Denise Violette recalled. He fled there, only to end up belligerent in the emergency room of a hospital one night. Doctors found no drugs in his system, Denise Violette said.
Off medication

His family then committed him to a psychiatric hospital. A month later, doctors sent him home with pills and a diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia, his sister recalled. He moved and talked more slowly, his sister said.

"He didn't seem like he was totally 100 percent," said Denise Violette.

At the time, Denise Violette doubted her brother had schizophrenia and didn't think he needed medicine. She urged him to stop taking the pills. He eventually did. As far as Denise Violette knows, that's the last time he took medicine to try to control his schizophrenia. It haunts her now that she encouraged him to quit.

Within a few months of his release from the mental hospital, John Violette headed east to North Carolina and settled with relatives in the Triangle. He eventually regained some semblance of a normal life, Denise Violette said. He picked up jobs, holding on to some longer than others, his sister said. The day before Katlin died, John Violette quit his job at Lowe's Home Improvement, a move he made to get back into carpentry, Denise Violette said.

In North Carolina, John Violette immersed himself in activities for singles at Colonial Baptist Church in Cary. That's where he met Amber Marks. The two married nearly eight years ago.

Katlin made the family three in 2002. By then, they'd set up home in a new subdivision in Clayton. They relished family time, making it a point to meet for lunch at the house each day. The three had slumber parties, setting up tents and sleeping bags in their living room.

John Violette's heart was so tender toward Katlin that he couldn't even spank her, Denise Violette said. He logged her journey with Christ in a journal; his other sister read from it at Katlin's funeral.

Denise Violette is still hoping she is having a nightmare, that some stranger broke into the house and killed Katlin instead of her brother.

"Even now, I think I will wake up and this will be someone else's family," Denise Violette said. "It is so beyond understanding."

 

This brings all new meaning to "Take your Medicine"

 

I wonder how many paranoid schizophrenics know exactly what they are doing during the time they suffer with an attack? Maybe it was this level of "understanding" that led the sister to convince him the medicine was not needed. :-(

Waiting to find out the entire story before wanting to execute someone is usually a good thing.

 

is not a diagnosis I put a lot of faith into.

 

Does it really matter what the diagnosis is? Obviously he was not playing with a full deck for this to have happened. I would be suprised if he didn't spend the rest of his life in mental hospitals of some sort, which may well be where he belongs.

However, if this is some sort of ploy to avoid the death penalty........................................... ...........:evil:

 

No, those who suffer from schizophrenia do not understand what they are doing during a psychotic episode, generally speaking. This man certainly didn't, from what I've read about it. It takes the family, along with mental health professionals, and others in the community to help some one with schizophrenia manage their lives successfully, in most cases. As with most mental disorders, there are individual differences in functioning with this disorder, although it is the most debilitating of the mental illnesses that typically have onset in adulthood. The primary symptoms of this particular disorder include having a delusional belief system, usually that some person or group is trying to cause you harm, and hearing voices taliking to you when no one is there. The voices often taunt, criticize, threaten, or instruct the person to do things, such as harm himself or others.

Medication is essential for treating this disorder, but those who suffer from it often do not know that they are sick and often stop taking their medications. All of the medications used for schizophrenia have side effects, some of them very unpleasant, which makes keeping them on medication even more difficult. The newer medications have fewer side effect problems but are very expensive. Family education and support are essential parts of treating this disorder, because the family is usually the front line for keeping the client on medication. There were obviously very unfortunate break downs in this case, with tragic results. It's important to understand that a person with schizophrenia who is receiving treatment is no more dangerous than anyone else, statistiaclly speaking.

As far as the death penalty goes, I don't think you can justify executing severely mentally ill offenders, but there is certainly a bias in my opinion. But would you execute someone who has a stroke while driving a car and runs over a four year old? Not exactly the same thing, but there are a lot of similarities.

If you have a family member who may have a mental illness and needs help getting treatment, I urge you to contact NAMI (www.naminc.org)
for help.

Thanks,
Snuff