Man Sought For Questioning In Clayton Child's Death!

Similarities?

Snuff states; "As far as the death penalty goes, I don't think you can justify executing severely mentally ill offenders, but there is certainly a bias in my opinion. But would you execute someone who has a stroke while driving a car and runs over a four year old? Not exactly the same thing, but there are a lot of similarities."

Executing someone who has a stroke while driving a car and runs over a four year old! Sorry but I see no similarities to this situation at all.

 

The similarity is that the mentally ill person is not responsible for the illness that causes the death any more than the person driving is responsible for the stroke. How does one know they are sane? They cannot, as if they are insane they may not be able to tell and if they are sane they cannot be sure they are not imagining that state.

 

The person suffers from a serious illness. The illness causes the person to be unaware of the consequences of their actions. While they are unaware of what they are doing, they kill some one.

Thanks for asking.

Snuff

 

No thank you Snuff, I have a loved one who we found had another disorder who clearly did not understand what went on at the time and is now on medication and recovering nicely. Fortunately it is clear that the medication helps and that the side effects are minimal.

Again I cannot emphasis enough, do not go it alone or worry about those who question the validity of psychology, get help.

Although I am in no way a professional, if I can help by lending an ear please PM me!

 

Thanks for sharing that, Hught. Definitely, get help. If this situation is an emergency (some one may get hurt), get help immediately (don't contact NAMI) Here are some options:

Call 989-5500 (24/7), in Johnston Co. only
Call 911
Get the person to an ER, if possible.

My PM is always open, too if anyone would like more information.

Snuff

 

You know what I think?

I think the sister and wife should be held accountable for the death also.

The sister definitely for telling her mentally ill brother to stop taking his medication.

She should be an accessory.

The wife should also ONLY... and this is ONLY she knew about his disease and did nothing to get him help.

There is so much "denial" can take you.

I find it hard to believe that in 8 years, a wife saw no signs, or had no idea that her husband was a paranoid schizophrenic.

If she knew, and she left him alone with that child, than she should be held accountable also.

I'm sure your all going to tell me how horrible I am, but this is just my opinion.

To many wives live in denial about their husbands illnesses (like that man in PA that killed the Amish schoolgirls).

 

I think its starting to become clear that Violette is either (a) an evil individual who hides his diabolical innerself or; (b) is truly insane. If (a) was the case, he certainly should be given the death penalty. If insane, he should be medicated and be kept in a secured mental facility and never allowed to rejoin society due to the heinous actions committed by his own hands.

The sister seems to be trying to take some responsibility (I guess to aid her brother from the capital punishment) so in a way, yes I agree that she should be held accountable in some capacity if she is now coming forward, but criminally she will not. She was very irrresponsible to encourage him to come off his medication COMPLETELY. It was she that had encouraged him to seek medical help in the first place! The wife may have had some ideas of his paranoia, but had never heard of his "labeling" in California nor expected that his own daughter would be the target of his insanity. He worked in the lumber department at Lowes for years according to reports, so in a public venue like this, how is it there was no evidence of his paranoia there? Maybe it had truly regressed and then something set him off. I don't know, except in speculation.

To me, you have to look at it like this. Violette had to know that he suffered severe mental problems. He knew that he was suseptible to outbursts from his past. He has to bear some responsibility for his actions, because he wasn't apparently showing evidence of being incapable of making responsible decisions. IMO, he is to blame. Its like your neighbor owning a tiger and keeping it behind a chicken wire fence. The tiger attacks its owner's kids and the owner blames it on the tiger.

 

There's no doubt he's insane, you have to be to do that to a child. What bothers me about the whole thing though, is that he had enough "sense" (or whatever you want to call it) to drive to the airport, book a flight, get on a plane, get himself to Washington DC, and check into a hotel there. None of that seems very "crazy" to me. Most of these other crimes you hear about where the parent kills the child because the little green man on his/her shoulder told her Jesus wanted her to, they stick around because they "don't know what they've done". The man in Charlotte that stabbed his twins, the woman that drowned her kids, the woman that cut her child's arms off, etc...they all stuck around. How is his leaving town explained? That's the part I don't get. Yeah I think he's crazy, but I also think he knew what he did was wrong. Not to mention he quit his job the day before. As if he was planning it. Regardless though, you can count on the fact that we'll be paying for him to live out his days under the care of the good ol State of NC. I predict in 5 or so years, he'll be "sane" again, and we'll get to pay for him to get a master's in psychology while he's locked up.

 

Actually his getting on a plane, his going to D.C. and his use of the credit card for the hotel, indicates he was not thinking properly.

 

They certainly bear some of the responsibility. That's part of the problem with the way some people view mental illness. Why on earth would you tell a family member not to follow their doctor's advise? I think this would have been much different if the guy had a kidney disease and the doctor told him he needed dialysis (sp?) or he would die. It's a diseased brain; requires treatment or some one may die. I'm no expert in legal matters, but I think a prosecuter would have a hard time making a case that family members were accomplices in this case, but they will have to live with feeling responsible for the rest of their lives, I imagine.

 

The thought ran through my head also...should the sister be held accountable? I thought no. It is not uncommon for a family or person dealing with a mentally illness (depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia...) to think they are "cured" because the medication is in fact working. Of course if a family member knows of an illness, you would NEVER assume of such a horrific crime (unless the person had voiced those thoughts). He can still show "normal" behavior but be guided through unrealistic motives. Example: voices can tell him to do this and that, now voices can tell him leave...We don't know. We can't assume.

The fact is, it is a tragedy. Does the fact that the child was beautiful matter? No. It was a heinous crime to ANY child. Any person. Any living being. No judgements all the way around. Justice will be served by a Higher power. It is hard to separate yourself with the details. I hate that the news likes to put it all out there OVER AND OVER AND OVER again. The man obviously had a history. I am sure there must have been signs. But hindsight is 20/20. It is horrible. Horrible. It breaks my heart thinking about it. Prayer will heal not hate or disgust. It is hard to know till you have walked in their shoes. Prayer for all involved. He obviously loved his daughter. He had a journal for her. He was literally sick in the head. I am not justifying it. NOT AT ALL. Just saying we know only what the media displays. We did not live their daily lives. We only know a picture of her and a picture of him. How can we even begin to understand? It is so so sad.

 

You are so right. At first when the crime happened, it angered me. Everyone was like, death to this guy, and torture him, and burn in hell for the crime. But now that the family is letting the skeletons out of the closet, I am very saddened for all of them, and really, this is now just a very sad, sad story. I prayer for all of them, No one can predict the future and they couldn't have either. They did what they thought was best for each other, and could never have predicted that something like this would have happened. Like you said, unless you walked in their shoes, behind their closed doors, even then you would not , could not have predicted the outcome. I prayer they all get well enough to go on with life. Remember the Amish in the school shooting,,, forgive so that you can go on.........

 

Amen, Robbie.