Offer to Donate Property for Cleveland Park

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by barney726, Feb 10, 2017.

  1. Harvey

    Harvey Well-Known Member

    I've thought about this for a while and it does kinda stink a bit. I guess there are not any selfless deeds anymore. On one hand the area really needs some public space and I think JoCo needs to get off it's butt and start a parks and rec program. It is a nice gift to the county, but on the other hand I do not want it if the gift's sole purpose seems to be to facilitate more homes. Mixed feelings.
     
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  2. poppin cork

    poppin cork Well-Known Member

    The homes are coming either way. Did they have to build a park for you to move here? Didn't think so. Just be grateful man.
     
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  3. WadeCorbett

    WadeCorbett Well-Known Member

    The local municipalities are responsible for their own Parks and Rec Departments. The County has no desire to get into that business because it would be responsible for establishing and maintaining parks throughout the entire County. If there was one placed in the Cleveland Community, they would need one in the McGees Community, the Flowers Community, Willow Spring, etc.

    Municipalities can justify providing this service among many others by having a higher tax rate. On top of that, if the County did provide this service, the local municipalities could become upset because it reduces their value proposition.

    Just my opinion.
     
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  4. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

    Good point.
     
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  5. Harvey

    Harvey Well-Known Member

    All accurate points, but...why not? The County is growing at a rate that would be commensurate with supplying services such as this. I cannot remember in what context it was, but I do recall filling out a survey (from JoCo Gov't, I think) asking about a parks and rec program. It was intended to see if they should be setting up an exploratory endeavor to see if it is something they should do. No State park, no county parks, and the MST is a gift-wrapped starter kit for a parks program but they wouldn't notice it if it sat on the fact and wriggled. It just comes down to appetite, apathy, and taxes.

    Another point to consider, how fair is it that the municipalities have to shoulder the burden? I think the County actually does provide some money to cities/towns at times, but let's keep in mind how many people visit those town parks that don't pay city/town taxes.

    Chatham and Franklin counties both have parks and rec departments. Chatham is almost as big, has 1/3 the population and has a lower tax rate. What am I missing here?

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  6. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    That Chatham County is on its way to almost double in population .... ;)

    http://www.chathamedc.org/buildings-sites/chatham-park

    After full build out, the project would likely increase Pittsboro's population to more than 60,000 people.
     
  7. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

    Yep, I work on the new project there, here's public details about it:
    https://www.duke-energy.com/our-company/about-us/electric-transmission-projects/novo-nordisk
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  8. cynadon

    cynadon Well-Known Member

    are you totally clueless?
     
  9. poppin cork

    poppin cork Well-Known Member

    Seems so.
     
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  10. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

  11. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

    The scope of the project is way above what most people in the area realize. Once the site is active around 2021-22, there will be dozens of tankers and cargo trucks coming and going every day, that's why they are building a dedicated road/entrance off Gordon Rd just for trucks. Just to give you an idea, the estimate for one ingredient alone is to have 8 tankers a day delivering it. Millions in product will be coming and going daily. So 100% power reliability is needed.
     
  12. certdude

    certdude Well-Known Member

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  13. cynadon

    cynadon Well-Known Member

    maybe they will cut the hill at polenta and matthews
     
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  14. Rockyv58

    Rockyv58 Well-Known Member

    Better yet put a stop light at Cleveland School\Josephine, Cleveland School\Barber Mill or even at Cornwallis\Josephine\Shilo roads before putting one at Cleveland School\Mathew
     
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  15. BuzzMyMonkey

    BuzzMyMonkey Well-Known Member

    Spend. Spend , spend.
     
  16. Michael smith

    Michael smith Active Member

    Cleveland rd at polenta too!
     
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  17. cynadon

    cynadon Well-Known Member

    rocky, why you need a stop light at cornwallis and josephine? Its a four way stop! Left turns don't have priority!
     
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  18. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

  19. BuzzMyMonkey

    BuzzMyMonkey Well-Known Member

    Agree wholeheartedly. I personally have never seen big back ups there.
     
  20. Rockyv58

    Rockyv58 Well-Known Member

    Cynadon, the only reason for a light instead of a 4 way stop is just to speed things up a bit. More cars can go through at one time as oppose to one car at a time. That's the only reason why.
     

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