Racial Balance in the classroom

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by Bubba, Aug 28, 2012.

  1. oggsmash

    oggsmash Well-Known Member

    Cool to know secret Santa was able to get those Jordans on people's feet so fast in '85, glad I found that out.
     
  2. Cleopatra

    Cleopatra Well-Known Member

    I wasn't necessarily referring to you either. ;)

    I'm just saying that *we* don't know how people clothe their children, but at least we know they are being fed and their parent doesn't have to make that choice.
     
  3. siameselover

    siameselover Well-Known Member

    if you qualify for food stamps then you get many free things like a free phone.what i dont understand is some people get so much in stamps that they will never use them and they sell them. i think they should not give all the free stuff to them. if you are getting food stamps and low rent and medicaid why cant you pay for your phone?
     
  4. dangerboy

    dangerboy Well-Known Member

    i know the CONSERVATIVE-LED previous board changed it. i know the liberals voted them out. i know the new board has stated that they will "revisit" it for next school year. i doubt it will stay the way it is. i'd bet dollars to donuts that the libs will go back to the old system. maybe they should be more ****ed at the City of Raleigh for herding all their poor people into particular areas. it's not the county school system's fault that raleigh zones like it does. and the libs WANT the old system back so they can claim some moral high ground...they don't want to LIVE near the poor people, but they want to save face by keeping up the facade that they CARE for them by allowing SOME of them into the good, high-dollar schools. not too many, though. don't want wakefield's or cary or apex's F/R numbers to be above 20% now. just enough to say "our kids go to school with poor people". who cares that garner F/R is more like 80%? hypocrites.
     
  5. newmom5497

    newmom5497 Well-Known Member

    I am a teacher in Johnston County and, yes, there is suppose to be equal diversity in the classrooms. When we group our students for the following year we must try to place an equal amount of black, hispanic and white kids in each classroom. ..as well as an equal amount of girls/boys(as best we can), special needs kids, and behavior problems...so no one teacher gets all of one "kind" of kid, all of the low kids/high kids etc. After that, it is the principal's job to go through our groupings and make sure we did distribute kids equally.
    Hopefully I answered the OP question clearly.
     
  6. Bubba

    Bubba Well-Known Member

    diversity in the classroom

    Thanks for the teachers answer........just what I was looking for. I am all for diversity in the classroom but when it is one sided I question the motives of those responsible.
     
  7. newmom5497

    newmom5497 Well-Known Member

    Most principals would not let that happen. If he/she did, they would have a LOT of upset teachers to deal with. Also, most teachers would not do that to other teachers...we try to "pay it forward" so to speak and try to make it fair for everyone....plus we all have to work with each other every day so we don't want to have to deal with hard feelings from other teachers that we put all of a certain kind of kid in one class.
     
  8. CanisLupis

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  9. Clif001

    Clif001 Guest

    What may happen is not what is currently happening. The fact is that Wake county is no longer busing kids around.

    So, a dozen people told you no and you have no comment, but one person claims to be a teacher and says yes, this you believe.

    You're going to have fun on the Internet.
     
  10. BuzzMyMonkey

    BuzzMyMonkey Well-Known Member

    Don't take it so personal Bub, Bubba don't like you or your attitude.
     
  11. Clif001

    Clif001 Guest

    Oh my gawd, my life is over!

    So how do you know what Bubba likes or doesn't like? Are you him?
     
  12. BuzzMyMonkey

    BuzzMyMonkey Well-Known Member

    I'm a speculator,,
     
  13. Clif001

    Clif001 Guest

    There's a lot of speculators in the world. Most of them end up wrong.
     
  14. BuzzMyMonkey

    BuzzMyMonkey Well-Known Member

    So,,
     
  15. tukasiya

    tukasiya Well-Known Member

    What do you mean by "equal"? Are you referring to each race or gender by the percentage of their representation in the population (national, state, county)? Or do you mean 1/3 this or 1/3 that or 1/3 other, or 1/2 this or 1/2 that?


    Used to be that these "low" kids were taught by teachers who were trained to deal with these issues.

    I do not have children in the JoCo school system, so I do not know what is going on in your system.
     
  16. newmom5497

    newmom5497 Well-Known Member

    I mean that we try not to put 10 hispanic kids in one classroom and only 2 in another classroom...or 16 boys/6 girls in one classroom...and then 14 girls and 8 boys in another etc....or give one teacher all of the special needs kids while another gets none or just one.....or one teacher getting all of the higher readers and the other 4 teachers getting the middle/lower readers....its as equally distributed as possible.

    They have phased out specific teachers for kids that need extra help...regular classroom teachers are now responsible for all level kids with virtually no pull outs.(its called inclusion/differentiation) and within the classroom.
     
  17. oggsmash

    oggsmash Well-Known Member

    I am sorry to say, but that sounds like about the least efficient way to run classrooms I have ever heard.
     
  18. newmom5497

    newmom5497 Well-Known Member

    Most teachers agree with you as far as not having pull outs for kids that need the extra help....but due to budget, thats the way it is in most NC public schools now. The norm is 24-27 students per classroom of all levels/need/ability...with the classroom teacher left to deal with how to teach them all at the same time and providing the extra help within the classroom for those that are struggling.
    Its not ideal, nor the choice of most teachers...but its the way it is.
     
  19. oggsmash

    oggsmash Well-Known Member

    how does that get changed? I dont see how it benefits neither a gifted kid or a slow one to be in the same room trying to do things at different paces when you could just put folks where they fit better.
     
  20. newmom5497

    newmom5497 Well-Known Member

    We do try to "group" the kids within the classroom for at least reading....and even switch classrooms according to ability. I also do it within my own classroom in math..with the help of my part-time teaching assistant.

    But the ones who REALLY need extra help/or an extra challenge(AIG) USED to be serviced outside the classroom with specialists/AIG center off campus...but both are gone now due to budget.
    The teachers do the best they can within the classroom with the time, experience, and extra help that they can get(ta's in the lower grades, and good parent volunteers)

    But I agree 100%...the "specialist" teachers trained in gifted/remediation for struggling kids is the best option for the kids...but its not there any more. SMALLER class sizes is also so much more beneficial(Its UNBELIEVABLE how much more I can teach/give specialized instruction when I have even 2 or 3 kids absent. The difference between a classroom with 24 kids and a classroom with 18 kids makes all the difference in the world) But class sizes are only going to grow due to budget.
     

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