Senator Fred Smith

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  1. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    Gonna make me do my own research? :evil: Well, thank goodness for google! :wink:
     
  2. kaci

    kaci Well-Known Member

    Please share your findings.
     
  3. motorider

    motorider Well-Known Member

  4. Oy Yayoy

    Oy Yayoy Well-Known Member

    Or maybe they'll find it too biased to be useful. Interesting that abortion and defense aren't even included in the issues. Nice try!
     
  5. barney726

    barney726 Well-Known Member

    Ms. Altman, Would you reply to the following:
    1) You state; "After six weeks with no word, while my mother and I sat in church, my mother could take it no more. She ran out of the church with me in tow. She cried all the way to the main post office and started banging on their door. Someone answered the door and my mother told them what she was going through and we were allowed to enter. All the employees, my mother and I sat on the floor going through tons of mail trying to find one piece that would show that my father was still alive. To our amazement we found several. He had been behind enemy lines the whole time and could not communicate with anyone."
    Whose "tons of mail" were you allowed to go through in Alabama?
    2) You further state; "or to tell their sales staff to sell homes on false promises."
    Did Fred Smith personally do this? What were his false promises?
     
  6. motorider

    motorider Well-Known Member

    replying to Oy Yayoy's post: ahhhh...I think if you'd look at the site a bit more deeply (other than the typical shallow glance...) you'll notice that there is information pertaining a candidate's stand (or voting record) regarding abortion and defense.

    You'll also notice, again if looking, that some candidates had not replied to what they call the NPAT, The National Political Awareness Test. Which provides a candidate's stand on various issues, or they only responded to particular issues and not all of them.
    http://www.vote-smart.org/npat_about.php

    It sure looks pretty unbiased to me. Just the facts as Joe Friday use to say, with out the scare tactics, and intellectual dumbing down that seem to attract most shallow observers.

    hmmmm.....interesting
     
  7. saltman

    saltman Guest

    Re: Senator Smith and Ms. Altman responses requested.

    Dear Hatteras6,

    I want to address each and every question that you asked the best way that I can. I realize that we do not have a magic wand on any issue and everyone has a different view but I do tend to think outside the box. I have been saying for a long time that we should use resources that are outside of our area on schools, internet, healthcare and all, while still using the knowledge in our area (if that makes sense). Below is a prime example of what I would like to see done and I don't think it would take forever to get this done. We have some brilliant people in our area that would be glad to give time to work on projects like this, we just need a leader to help get them started.

    New school designs don't go by the book

    Today's K-12 school buildings need to be vastly different from the outmoded stock they are replacing. School boards, cost-conscious taxpayers, parents, and other interested parties are pushing Building Teams to provide schools with high-performance technology, flexible space for community and student use, and innovative design and construction methods—within a tight budget, of course.

    By Jeff Yoders, Associate Editor

    June 1, 2006

    Building Design and Construction
    America needs more schools. Forty-five percent of the nation's elementary, middle, and high schools were built between 1950 and 1969, according market research firm ZweigWhite, Natick, Mass. Yet even as the stock of K-12 schools ages and declines, school enrollments continue to climb. The National Center for Education Statistics predicts that enrollment in public K-12 schools will keep rising through 2012. As a result, school districts throughout the U.S. are scrambling to build and renovate enough classrooms to meet the needs of a growing student population.
    But today's K-12 school buildings need to be vastly different from the outmoded stock they are replacing. School boards, cost-conscious taxpayers, parents, and other interested parties are pushing Building Teams to provide schools with high-performance technology, flexible space for community and student use, and innovative design and construction methods—within a tight budget, of course.
    Meeting these goals will not be easy. "Everyone's looking for that magic bullet," said Ellen Savitz, director of development for the School District of Philadelphia. "As a school district, we're always trying to make our new buildings better for students, teachers, and administrators." But, she notes, Philadelphia, like school systems across the country, is trying to find the delicate balance between meeting new and greater demands—smaller classes, better and more technology, high-quality community resources and athletic facilities—in the face of severe constraints.

    Walker Creek Elementary in North Richland Hills, Texas, shares facilities. It keeps its library, arts center, and almost all of the building (only the classroom wing is locked off) open to the surrounding community after hours. Photo by Blake Marvin, HKS Inc.
    "The lack of adequate funding forces us to find ways to be more efficient," said Philadelphia School District CEO Paul Vallas, who previously had served as CEO of Chicago's school district. "Last year, this school district spent less than $9,000 per pupil, in contrast to New York, which spends $14,000. If you're in a large, urban district with all the challenges that come along with it—aging building stock with 20 years of deferred maintenance—that has really forced us to find ways to be more efficient."
    Philadelphia is in the process of implementing a $1.5 billion capital program to build 28 new or adaptive-reuse high schools, nearly doubling the number of such schools in the city, by 2008. Each will accommodate 400-800 students. As recently as three years ago, when Vallas became CEO of the district, Philadelphia had only 32 high schools.
    Today's school planners and designers are facing that challenge by creating schools that integrate technology so deeply into a school's design that the wired classroom is starting to becoming reality—and where at least one school is teaching without books at all.
    They're also saving money by sharing space and facilities that traditionally were kept separate—for example, combining elementary and middle schools.
    Finally, today's schools are involving their surrounding communities more than ever, by placing their schools close to community resources and keeping more of their facilities open to the public on weekends and after hours.
    1 Putting technology to work
    Last February, Bill Gates, chairman of Microsoft Corp., told the National Governors Association that the American high school is obsolete. "Training the work force of tomorrow with the high schools of today is like trying to teach kids about today's computers on a 50-year-old mainframe," he said. Gates called for a systematic look at high school effectiveness across the country.
    Technology has been changing the classroom for at least the last decade, but the schools that use technology best are integrating design and curriculum to create learning spaces that go far beyond adding hardware and networks, according to Brad Paulsen, leader of Darien, Ill.-based design firm Wight & Company's K-12 education practice.
    Building Teams across the nation are already installing technologies like video-conferencing, LCD projectors, WiFi-enabled buildings where all students have laptops, and smart boards—electronic interactive white boards, rather than chalk and slate black boards. But design is only one part of today's wired school. These high-performance buildings demand that administrators rethink the way schools teach and children learn.


    The Walker Creek Elementary School in North Richland Hills, Texas, uses flexible space, student learning “pods,” and a Cisco Systems wireless network to teach its 700 students. The school is also laid out along a central circulation spine called Main Street.
    Photo by Blake Marvin, HKS Inc

    Microsoft Corporation has partnered with the Philadelphia School District to create the School of the Future, a 168,000-sf, $63 million project set to open this September in Fairmount Park, near West Philadelphia's Parkside neighborhood.
    The school, designed by The Prisco Group of Hopewell, N.J., will have a 500-seat, 8,500-sf state-of-the art auditorium with two smaller, revolving lecture spaces that can open up to create one large auditorium. All three floors of the building will be accessible by a central spine, or "Main Street," from which classrooms, gyms, and cafeteria space will be attached like modular ribs. Seven hundred fifty digitally enabled students will be connected at home and school through wireless broadband. Teachers and administrators will access data through online digital smart boards. Each classroom will have a control box, where teachers can access DVDs, video projectors, and video-conferencing technology.
    "We've never put this much high-tech wiring and video-conferencing capability in a school building before," said Frank Goldcamp, project manager for Frazer Comtech of King of Prussia, Pa., the IT subcontractor. "It really is more like a high-end office building job for us."
    Construction managers Gilbane Co., Providence, R.I., and Felder & Felder, Philadelphia, are currently working crews in double shifts to finish the project before the scheduled September 4 opening. The project will seek LEED Gold status from the U.S. Green Building Council.
    Officially, Philadelphia's School of the Future has no ties to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, although it does borrow from the foundation's approach to smaller schools and integrated technology. While the Philadelphia project places strong emphasis on integrating technology, the school district and Microsoft insist it's the school's methods that will shape the learning curve.
    Microsoft Corporation's chief contribution is its organizational practices, which the company has allowed the school district to employ in the project. For example, its 20-25 teachers will be picked based on Microsoft's "competency wheel," a compilation of 38 talents and abilities that presumably will identify teachers who will become "stakeholders" in the school. Back-office functions like procurement and payroll management will be designed to Microsoft's standards.
    "It crystallizes where your areas of improvement are," said Mary Cullinane, academic program manager of the project for Microsoft and a former high school teacher herself. "A lot of what we're doing is leveraging some of Microsoft's best business practices. We want this school to be scalable and replicable so other districts can look at it and say, We can do this, too."
    Schools CEO Vallas likes the relationship with the Redmond, Wash., firm. "I, personally, like Microsoft's corporate culture, and if they're bringing their practices into our everyday lives in this school district, I say more power to them," he told Building Design & Construction.
    To control costs, the building is being constructed largely from standard, relatively low-cost materials, said Richard Seamon, project manager for construction program manager URS Corp. of New York. For example, the building's exterior is all stone block.
    Philadelphia's School of the Future is not the only public school to use technology in an innovative way. When Empire High School, in Vail, Ariz., opened last July, students were given an Apple iBook in place of a stack of textbooks.
    Calvin Baker, superintendent of the Vail School District (of which Empire is a part), said his curriculum development team visited a number of other schools where each student had a laptop. "It seemed to us a lot of them were still doing business the way it had always been done, but they'd just added laptops." With the current emphasis on meeting minimum test standards for student advancement, he said, "we thought we had to break away from the old habits."
    Almost 600 school districts nationwide use laptops, according to the Software & Information Industry Association, but the $12.5 million, 100,500-sf, 700-student Empire High is the only known no-textbook school in the nation.
    For the experiment to work, Empire needed ATM-level network reliability and flexible classroom space. The money saved by not building computer labs (and not buying books) went toward the purchase of the iBooks ($850 each). Instead of having one IT manager and a lower-paid assistant, as in all other Vail public schools, Empire High has a manager and three assistants.
    Members of the Building Team were quick to point out that some of the features of a wired-for-wireless school actually made it easier to build.
    "Our communications consultant put Apple Airport wireless hubs throughout the ceilings in the whole building, which actually reduced the volume of wires," said Phil Swaim, lead architect on the project for Swaim Associates, Tucson, Ariz. "It really opened up flexibility for the design. There are no computer labs, so every classroom was essentially a long room with tables," with comparable technology in each room.
    Each classroom has a central core that can be subdivided into four separate sections for team learning or for use by smaller groups of students within the same class.
    Schools superintendent Baker said the building still has a library/media center, and some books have also been purchased for supplemental reading for advanced placement classes. But in lieu of a bookstore, the school has technology store that's about the size of a typical Radio Shack outlet.
    2 One building for all
    Four years ago, Valley View School District 356U in Romeoville, Ill., approached its architect, Wight & Company, about building a new middle school (grades 6-8) and moving a previously designed elementary school to a new site.
    "They'd bought some land and wanted to create a campus," said Brad Paulsen, Wight's K-12 team leader. "We came to them with the idea of creating a K-8 learning environment that could fit in the original design of the first building, a connected school concept."
    The team from Wight redesigned one side of the elementary school that housed the cafeteria and gymnasium and then designed the new middle school to have its cafeteria and gymnasium on the opposite side. Putting the two buildings together with a shared cafeteria/gymnasium space saved the school district about $500,000, out of a total construction cost of $47.9 million for the combined 261,300-sf school. The elementary school opened last year; the middle school is scheduled to welcome students this August.
    The two schools share a kitchen, a delivery area, and a set of coolers, as well as a mechanical plant. The back-to-back gymnasiums have shared locker room facilities.
    The school district directed Wight & Company to design the space to minimize contact between the students in the two schools, to minimize conflicts between children of significantly different ages. So, the cafeteria can be used for assemblies and other two-school activities, but it can also be blocked off to one school and open to the other. A shared bus drop-off is the only other place where the paths of students from the two schools intersect.
    The concept of shared schools is gaining traction. Wight & Company is currently designing a second shared-space K-8 school in St. Charles, Ill. HMC Architects of Ontario, Calif., has designed its first joint-use for the high-enrollment California market, the Banta Elementary and Middle School in Lathrop, Calif., in the San Joaquin Valley. The two schools will share a gymnasium, library, and multi-purpose room.
    "You're going to see a lot more joint-use or shared-use facilities in California in the future, primarily due to economic reasons," said Philip D. Nemeth, AIA, principal-in-charge of the Banta project.
    3 Learning on Main Street
    The 225,000-sf, $37 million, Robbinsville High School in Trenton, N.J., designed by the Spiezle Group of that city, exemplifies yet another new trend in K-12 schools—the Main Street concept. It is organized around a two-story, skylighted central circulation spine, using the idea of Main Street in a small town or village as a metaphor.
    Similarly, the Philadelphia/Microsoft School of the Future follows a Main Street approach, with translucent ceiling panels and Barnes & Noble-like alcoves. Its auditorium, cafeteria, and gymnasium are the only large spaces; otherwise, interchangeable classrooms make up the rest of the turns off Main Street.
    "The idea allows for nearly every room in the building to be reached from just one turn off of Main Street," said Joe Joseph, manager of construction services for Philadelphia's schools. "It allows the design to be reused too, in that you can take even the large spaces out and put in something else. We could take that auditorium away and substitute a natatorium or some other space a school might have in the design stage, and not miss a beat."
    The 700-student, 86,000-sf Walker Creek Elementary School in the Hometown community of North Richland Hills, Texas, takes the Main Street idea to the extreme.
    Hometown is a New Urbanist community with a compact downtown and six-foot-wide sidewalks. Walker Creek Elementary, designed by Dallas-based architecture firm HKS, has one long corridor running the length of the school and flexible-space classrooms and even larger spaces plugged interchangeably on each side of the spine.
    Each classroom in the school is set up as a flexible pod with public and private teaming areas. The school itself is situated next to a city performing arts center and a separate city recreation center. The classroom wing is closed after hours, but residents are encouraged to use the other school facilities in off-hours, just as the parents of children at the school are encouraged to take their children to the arts and recreation centers after school.
    "The school was built so the community can use it," said Dr. Stephen Waddell, superintendent of the Birdville Independent School District. "The library and community rooms are all up front and are open to learning opportunities for adults after hours, while other parts of the building are secured. A lot of our technology has also been opened up to the community."
    "The walls can be removed, the building is adaptable," said Waddell. "It's to be flexible, for people working there today and for people working and learning there 30 years from now. We're planning for the future."

    Emerging Concepts in K-12 Schools
    1. More IT, fewer books
    2. More shared space
    3. Main Street backbone
    How to Get the Green Light for a Green School
    Sustainable design is crucial to the health and well-being of students in K-12 schools, many public health experts believe. Because young people's immune systems are not fully developed, they are more susceptible to irritation resulting from the built environment. Students need fresh air, daylight, and a healthy environment to learn in.
    But even tiny additional first costs are the arch enemy of school districts trying to make more space for more students with less money. Seventy-six percent of executives at organizations involved with K-12 construction said the biggest obstacle to construction of green schools is a perception of higher construction costs, according to the 2005 Turner Green Buildings Market Barometer.
    Brad Paulsen, K-12 education practice leader for Wight & Company, Darien, Ill., says Building Teams have to make an argument that goes beyond first costs. "You have to show that the school is not only more efficient over the life cycle of the building, but how this impacts the students, how it improves productivity and the learning environment, and how it will help the school district in the long-run." His firm recently completed a 560,000-sf, $143.2-million LEED-certified high school in Bolingbrook, Ill., the first LEED-certified high school in Illinois and only the third in the country, and one of only 25 LEED school buildings in the U.S.
    Getting the go-ahead for LEED certification could become easier later this year, when the U.S. Green Building Council unveils its LEED for Schools certification program.
    At the Turner/USGBC Greening the Schools conference last month in Haverford, Pa., LEED for Schools program coordinator Lindsay Baker said LEED-NC for Schools is on schedule to seek public comment this month and be launched at Greenbuild this November. Some of the modifications included in the prospective LEED-NC for Schools program will be adding credits for acoustics, mold prevention, joint-use of facilities, process water use, building-integrated environmental education, and master planning.
    Greg Kats, principal of Cap-E group, also presented the findings of his report, "A National Review of Green Schools: Costs, Benefits, and Implications for Massachusetts," at the Turner/USGBC conference. His analysis of 30 green school buildings across the nation found that green schools cost only 1.5-2.5% more than conventional buildings to construct, not the 5-10% often cited.
    "The financial benefits of greening schools are 10 to 20 times as large as the cost," he said. "Green school construction costs 1.5% to 2.5% more than conventional school construction, almost $4 more per sf for a typical $25 million, 125,000-sf school for 900 students. The financial savings are about $70 per sf, more than 10 times as high as the cost of going green."
    One example is Homewood (Ala.) Middle School, the nation's first LEED-certified middle school. Completed in December 2004, the 1,000-student, $24-million, 180,000-sf middle school was designed by Giattina Fisher Aycock Architects of Birmingham, Ala. The building achieves 38% energy savings, 40% water savings, 50% reduced water use, and 95% daylighting of interior spaces. Under construction manager Brasfield & Gorrie of Birmingham, the project had the first construction-site recycling program in Alabama.
    "We found that with a smaller cooling burden, we saved money on all sorts of systems backups for the network," said Chris Giattina, principal-in-charge of the project. "Small cooling fans, fewer conduit runs, smaller diameter cabling—all these add up. Traditionally, you'd save 10% in energy costs by spending an extra 10% in construction costs. We found that at about the 30% savings range, many of those extra costs just disappear."
    Savings innovations, coupled with a strong life cycle plan, helped sell the Homewood Board of Education on the project.
    "Once we explained how the first cost represents only 20% of the cost of this building over its life, they were fully on board," Giattina said.
    To download the report, "National Review of Green Schools: Costs, Benefits, and Implications for Massachusetts," go to: http://www.cap–e.com/ewebeditpro/items/O59F7707.pdf

    Reference: http://www.bdcnetwork.com/article/CA6342191.html
     
  8. saltman

    saltman Guest

    Sherry's Answers

    Yes, I will answer your questions. Your first question is hog wash. If all you got from our story is that federal employees let us go through the mail then shame on you. Some people still have compassion.

    I am not sure if Fred Smith personally told his sales staff to make those statements or not, but I will tell you that he is the CEO of the Fred Smith Company! Should we allow Kenneth Lay and others not to go to prison because they did not personally tell the bookkeeper to change the books!

    Ask the residents of his Riverwood Subdivision what promises they received. I was asked to attend a meeting they were having with Fred on this very issue and they made statements to him that he agreed with and then blamed some of the issues on the school board not keeping their promise on a "gentlemen's agreement." Please help yourself to ask those who live in any of the subdivisions.

    Now, I will get back to the questions two others had that really have an impact on our district!!!!
     
  9. Oy Yayoy

    Oy Yayoy Well-Known Member

    Burying something on the 40th page below the fold doesn't count. You're just being disingenuous, now.
     
  10. Oy Yayoy

    Oy Yayoy Well-Known Member

    Re: Sherry's Answers

    Guess you won't get a direct answer to a direct question. Only that he's evil because he's a CEO.

    Business is inherently evil, you know!
     
  11. saltman

    saltman Guest

    Re: Senator Smith and Ms. Altman responses requested.

    Please see the example below that I use on the website. I just think we need leadership and I do not see it right now.

    Still working on your other questions. Have to complete our dinner and then I will jump back to your other two. I hope I am explaining why I am running as I show you what is going on in other states. I really, really appreciate your questions!

    Mass. Bill Requires Health Coverage
    State Set to Use Auto Insurance As a Model
    By David A. Fahrenthold
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Wednesday, April 5, 2006; Page A01
    BOSTON, April 4 -- The Massachusetts legislature approved a bill Tuesday that would require all residents to purchase health insurance or face legal penalties, which would make this the first state to tackle the problem of incomplete medical coverage by treating patients the same way it does cars.
    Gov. Mitt Romney (R) supports the proposal, which would require all uninsured adults in the state to purchase some kind of insurance policy by July 1, 2007, or face a fine. Their choices would be expanded to include a range of new and inexpensive policies -- ranging from about $250 per month to nearly free -- from private insurers subsidized by the state.

    Romney said the bill, modeled on the state's policy of requiring auto insurance, is intended to end an era in which 550,000 people go without insurance and their hospital and doctor visits are paid for in part with public funds.
    "We insist that everybody who drives a car has insurance," Romney said in an interview. "And cars are a lot less expensive than people."
    Tuesday's votes approving the bill -- 154 to 2 in the House and 37 to 0 in the Senate -- were the culmination of two years of politicking and several months of backroom negotiations, as rival health-care plans from Romney and the two Democrat-led chambers were hammered into one.
    What resulted is a proposal that health-care experts say is unlike any other in the country. What to do about the 45 million Americans without health insurance has flummoxed both the Bush administration, whose proposal for "health savings accounts" fizzled, and that of Bill Clinton, whose broad plan for health-care changes fell flat.
    On the state level, Hawaii and Maine have programs that seek to offer near-universal access to health insurance, and Illinois last year approved a subsidy plan that will widely increase coverage for needy children.
    But no state, experts say, has taken the step of making health insurance coverage a legal requirement. The idea was applauded by Uwe E. Reinhardt, a professor of economics and public affairs at Princeton University, who said that he has long believed that the American system of allowing uninsured patients to receive care at the government's expense was nothing more than "freedom to mooch."
    "Massachusetts is the first state in America to reach full adulthood," said Reinhardt, noting that the new measure is a move toward personal responsibility. "The rest of America is still in adolescence."
    As simple as the idea sounds -- buy insurance or else -- the proposal is complex and, in some cases, still unfinished. For instance, it leaves the task of determining exactly how much some low-income residents will pay for their new, more affordable policies to a new agency that would serve as a liaison between the government, policyholders and private insurance companies.
    Because of that uncertainty, some still worry that the residents required to buy insurance would not be able to.
    "Who defines what's affordable?" said the Rev. Hurmon Hamilton, a minister in the Boston neighborhood of Roxbury and a leader in an interfaith organization that has pushed for health-care changes.
    Another aspect that may change is the $295 annual fee that the bill would require companies to pay for each employee they do not provide with insurance. Legislative leaders have insisted that this money be fed into the pool that would subsidize low-cost policies for the uninsured, but Romney said that would be unnecessary.
    "That's likely to be adjusted by me," he said -- potentially through the use of a line-item veto.

    This is how Massachusetts leaders envision the plan would work:
    Uninsured people earning less than the federal poverty threshold would be able to purchase subsidized policies that have no premiums, and would be responsible for very small co-payment fees for emergency-room visits and other services. Those earning between that amount and three times the poverty-level amount would be able to buy subsidized policies with premiums based on their ability to pay. Though no maximum premium is set in the bill, legislators' intent seems to be for it to top out at about $200 to $250 per month.
    All residents will have to provide details about their health insurance policy on their state income tax returns in 2008. Those who do not have insurance would first lose their personal state tax exemption, perhaps worth $150, and later face penalties equal to half the cost of the cheapest policy they should have bought. That might work out to $1,200 per year, officials said. Those who cannot find an affordable plan could obtain a waiver.
    Enforcement of the requirement will not be done by hospitals, officials said: They will treat uninsured patients as before.
    The bill's passage was celebrated as a victory in the state legislature, with House Speaker Salvatore F. DiMasi (D) telling colleagues that they had succeeded where other states had failed.
    "We did something to solve the problem," he said.
    The same message might provide a political boost to Romney, who is considering a presidential run in 2008. By proving he can work with Democrats, and find a health-care solution that relies on the private sector, Romney can portray himself as an executive who can work across the aisle in harshly partisan times.
    "It might help him to say, 'Look, I have a solution for health insurance,' " said Julian E. Zelizer, a professor of history at Boston University.
    Reference: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/04/AR2006040401937.html
     
  12. saltman

    saltman Guest

    Re: Senator Smith and Ms. Altman responses requested.

    I really don't have an answer to your question. I have researched the "Fair Tax" in the past, but am not sure if it is the answer. At a house meeting over the weekend someone brought up Florida's tax system as opposed to North Carolina's and really did not get an answer to his question either. This one is real hard. I am wide open to intellegent ideas and opinions on this subject.

    You may not hear the answer "I just don't know about the response to that question yet." much, but if I really don't know the answer and have done my research and am still wondering which way to go I will definitely tell anyone that I still do not have the answer.
     
  13. barney726

    barney726 Well-Known Member

    "At a house meeting over the weekend someone brought up Florida's tax system as opposed to North Carolina's and really did not get an answer to his question either. "
    Anyone that tries to compare North Carolina's tax system with Florida's must be smoking something.
    Look at all the income Florida receives from two major industries, Tourism and Gaming, and you can see that there is no way to compare our tax systems.
     
  14. As a concerned citizen I attended this evening Sen, Fred Smith presentationand was so disappointe to see that all persons that are critcising the candidates were not at the forum. Senator had excellent core values and was adamant as to how useless are Senators weve elected in the State.
    Secondly their was no one their to speak up about Cleveland Community needs. Elections are to be held shortly the Community needs to recruit people to represent us and be heard. Dont be complacent.
     
  15. barney726

    barney726 Well-Known Member

    Ms. Altman, To one of my questions you answered;
    "Yes, I will answer your questions. Your first question is hog wash. If all you got from our story is that federal employees let us go through the mail then shame on you. Some people still have compassion."

    You say "hog wash". I have compassion plus I just don't like the idea of someone representing me that believes it was OK for her, her mother and Post Office employees going through "tons" of mail of others for any reason. It is againt the law. It has absolutely nothing to do with compassion. I sure hope this subject comes up if you get a chance to debate Senator Smith.
     
  16. saltman

    saltman Guest

    Re: Senator Smith and Ms. Altman responses requested.

    When I first signed up to run in this race the issues I wanted to concentrate on I was told were not local issues. Those same people have changed their minds due to converstions with me. Massachusetts passed a healthcare bill, which most people thought was a federal issue. When Alabama passed a bill to take care of veterans people thought that was a federal issue and when South Dakota passed an anti-abortion bill, which is going to the Supreme Court, people thought this was a federal issue. More and more states are passing bills to help change things for the hard working people. States are tired of waiting on the federal government to solve problems. States have more power now than ever before.

    You raised a question about immigrants who are already in the U.S. and did not agree with my statement. It is funny that just recently my daughter stated the same thing to about the about the ones already here. My statement to both you and my daughter is the same.

    Here are some questions I have on the ones here. If we have an illegal immigrant here and that person has a child that was born in the U.S. that child is considered and American citizen. So, if we kick those parents out of America what happens to the child? If we have an illegal immigrant in the U.S. who will suffer by the government of which ever country they came from should we go ahead and send them back, knowing they might not live long once returning to the country of origin? These and more questions should be considered instead of sending them all back. I ask you what suggestions you have on items such as these?

    Alot of detail needs to be considered before we just decide to send them back.

    Thank you for taking the time out to ask the hard questions. This has been a wonderful and eye opening forum and I think we need more of them.
     
  17. saltman

    saltman Guest

    Sherry's Answers

    I agree with part of your statement, but I believe everyone's just throwing out ideas to find a solution. I do not believe he stated that as a complete model.
     
  18. saltman

    saltman Guest

    Sherry's Answers

    Thanks for the advice. I will think on this one.
     
  19. saltman

    saltman Guest

    Re: Sherry's Answers

    I never said that we don't need the athletic club. I was responding to someone, that I think, was implying or so it seems that he was doing and building things out of the kindness of his heart. I wanted everyone to know that it is great he built all of this, but he charges for the use.

    Thanks.
     
  20. saltman

    saltman Guest

    Sherry's Answers

    You must not be paying attention to what laws other states are addressing. Check out South Dakota for a start and then see what's going on in other states. We need leadership that will address issues.
     

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