Have a quick question Can the public buy tazers yet after watching that I am hooked I want one ?Anyone know if you can buy them if so where?
No I am just not scared of much anymore. I will not be bullied by a badage. I am glad you know what you are talking about.... But back to the reason of this. They should not have tazed him. Then to taz him again while on the ground, Really he was fighting back that much. And they is a part in the clip where it does appear that they are holding while the tazer sounds like it is going off. Is this clip real?
Also not bashing the police. Just think that just like every from of goverment since 9/11 they are over stepping their bounds just a bit.
First of all unless there are extreme circumstances raw voltage will not kill you. Amperage is what kills a person. I too have served my country. Did it for almost 6 years, and saw a whole lot of crap (was active duty during the first gulf war). I then turned to serving our great state as a prison guard. And I can tell you from training and experience that even in a controlled situation such as a prison dormitory we used force such as mace and pepper spray long before we resorted to physical hand to hand contact. In the real civilian world with all the crazy people running around now days being "protected" by the bleeding hearts there is no way of telling what someone may have on them or are capable of doing. Why would you put yourself into a situation where a person could possibly cause you bodily harm when you have a device such as a tazer that will render the situation null and void? Unless of course you're one of the bleeding hearts. Craig
Ok, I realize I posted this in the first place and disappeared from the thread, Sorry! First off I approve of the Taser as an alternative to a gun. However I cannot see its use for nonviolent resistance. If this weapon was around in this form what would have happened to the Civil Rights Movement? Should this weapon be used against ProLife protesters?
Actually, after reading some late news articles, he may have been doing this in an effort to sue the police.
I am sorry but from what I have read on this, this was a nonviolent protest, in my opinion. Most nonviolent protest can be tied to violations of law such as trespassing and you can trump these up to other charges such as vagrancy. Does this mean that if I leave my wallet at home when I walk the dog that I am technically a vagrant?
From what his lawyer said on TV, Campus security asked him for his ID to prove he is a student, because the policy is that the library is open only to students after 11:00 p.m. He felt he was being singled out, or profiled, because he is of Iranian descent. He suggested they ask some of the caucasian students for ID, and they declined (which of course they have a right to do - claims of selective enforcement are usually a waste of time). He completed the assignment he was working on and then started to leave the library. It was at that point that the altercation began. He said he went limp because he thought he would not be harmed if he did that. I don't know why he thought that, and if he was interested in not being harmed, I don't know why he did not simply comply with the orders of the police. I still think they could have removed him without resorting to the taser, and I don't buy the notion that it's better to hurt somebody in a way that doesn't leave marks. Some bruises on his arms would not be any more cause for a lawsuit than hitting him four times with a taser.
I have come to ralize that everyone involved with this topic has a strong opinion and it isn't going to be changed. Arguments have been made for both side and no one has moved to the other side. I guess the scenario changes if the officer(s) were by themselves or they were a petite female?
I think Kaci nailed it in the "If the official report is accurate" part. I will wait to see how this falls out. My opinion is still that a taser for a nonviolent situation is inappropriate. From what I have seen - this was a nonviolent situation.
In that case, it was especially stupid for them to use so much force, wasn't it? There go the right-wingers, wasting our tax dollars again....
The report that Hught posted said that the student had packed up his things and was heading out of the library when a police officer grabbed his arm. He also stated a few times that he would leave. Sounds like to me that the police were the instigators, and the ones who kept things going and the ones who esculated it to the point of being rediculous. Of course, I am ignoring the fact that the student is of Iranian descent. If he were white, the situation would need to be interpreted differently. Being a little attention-deficit, I couldn't even tell you how many times I forgot my ID when I went somewhere on my college campus. And when you have an assignment due, the ID issue seems to be quite trivial in comparison at the time. I never got tazed or sprayed or shot, but I never made a big issue of it, either. And besides, I'm a native American and white.
Funny how you seemed to have missed posting that disclaimer when you posted the UCLA article. What a coincidence, so am I. Yep, I was born here in America.
