THESE are the kind of people teaching our children

Wow Hatt, I actually agree with you about something. :lol:

Seriously, and for the record, I don't have my youngest two at home because of the public school teachers. I was kidding around with Cleo about that, in case that wasn't obvious. We want Christ in our curricula but we can't afford private Christian school, so homeschooling is the only choice for us to ensure that our kids get what we want.

As far as teachers go I actually feel for you. I wish the schools would let you pop a few butts when needed so the kids would once again have respect for authority. I got my tail popped with a paddle a couple of times at school (in the '70s) and it sure didn't turn me in to a mass murderer or ruin my self-esteem. What it did was make me think twice about doing something at school that I knew was wrong (like throwing spit balls in class. ) It also taught me that being pulled in front of the class to get that little paddling, (which the two times I got it didn't hurt my rear end as much as it did my "feelings") was going to happen if I didn't obey the school's authority. Teachers' don't have that authority anymore and the kids know it. I'm not saying all kids take advantage the lack of authority in the schools, but I'm sure enough do to make life as miserable as they can for their teachers.

I honestly have the utmost respect for most teachers for toughing it out as our society degrades. And let me assure you, my one kid that is in ps high school right now knows that if he comes home gripping about how unfair something is at school because of blah, blah, blah, chances are we're going to be siding with the teacher or school administrator about it. So far, thank God, he has never had disciplinary problems at school. Maybe he figured out that is wasn't going to go over with us way back when he was in Kindergarten and got his little hiney spanked at home for getting trouble in school.

 

I'm, all for patting a child on the back to encourage them. And, some times, one has to lower to strike zone about a foot and a half, and get their attention.

I don't see many of my peer group whose psyches were irreparably damaged from the boards of education that were applied to our rear ends. Doctors, lawyers, teachers, journalists, shrimpers, surf bums and everyone in between. We turned out pretty darned well.

 

Bible says "spare not the rod." :lol:

 

I said I would stand behind and support my child's teachers/school administrators, but this would be an exception!

http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/local&id=6409815


I would be MIGHTY :evil: over that!

 

I have always believed corporal punishment belonged in school. If a kid knows he will get a spanking, he's less likely to misbehave. I think the past years of being more sensitive to a child's feelings and making sure we don't squash their self esteem has proven a failure. Kids need authority, not friendship.

 

To me, its a topic of discussion board conversation, but its not surprising. Aside from the fundamental morality issue here, you've got one person flirting with another and the other person may be totally oblivious to the other's intentions. Plus, its not like they're likely doing this stuff in the classroom. I'm not advocating it, but I'm saying that there is no suggestion in the post that implies that a child is going lacking in attention due to flirting. Again, you've only got one side of the story anyway.

 

Jester,

I appreciate your trying to introduce some logic here. Please stop. It confuses some of us. Obviously, we want the best teachers for our children. And in the Disneyish way, we want to raise our kids in a perfect society. (I'm channeling Nick Cage in Raising Arizona at the end, where his dream is of his kids growing older...if not Heaven, maybe Utah.. )

I guess that some of our posters feel that everyone's life must be conducted under artificial circumstance.

And, given the recent history of proclivities by a few teachers, one understands the visceral reaction.

Fortunately, cooler heads prevail.

 

Just calling it like I see it. How many times across America each day do people suffer because of such tomfoolery? And its not really just about flirting. Its about day to day work where people talk, joke, flirt, gossip, etc. Now granted taking this type of relationship to a more torrid spontaneity on the job would be definite grounds for discipline. Its just not likely something that applies in this case.

 

My mom was a teacher for many years. Following are just a few stories I heard.

Male teacher made rather "spicy" remarks to female students about "mammary glands." He eluded to how nice their mammary glands were. He was moved from one school to another (my high school).

Teacher was a cocaine dealer.

Several teachers kept liquor/drugs in their desks.

Teachers fornicating on school grounds... during school time.

Teachers drunk driving.

Yes, teachers are human. However, if this teacher is MARRIED he/she has no business trying to scam tail. C'mon... if someone is running around the building getting ready to go into season, do you really think their focus is in the classroom?

 

To me, there's no excuse for a teacher conducting themselves inappropriately with a student at any time. Moving a teacher around inside a school district ain't going to help if he continues to do so. It just gives him more girls to oogle and make comments about.

As for the stories, I'm not about to doubt your mom's but I'm not sure if it was simply hearsay or first hand knowledge. I wouldn't be surprised, however, at those statements being true. I just don't see it being a widespread problem. Its about like the NC Medical Board. You can go on there and find a list of doctors in NC disciplined every month. However, for every bad doc that is caught there's a large majority that are conducting themselves professionally.

For what it's worth, I supposedly had a teacher in sixth grade that would go back to the 'supply' room for a shot or two. I never saw or heard of any evidence of it.

 

Let's put it this way... most situations deemed as "inappropriate" are handled quite discretely. For example, if a teacher has tenure he/she would most likely be moved. Why? To take any action there has to be hard proof or the system risks a legal suit. In addition, if the story does make the news many folks on discussion boards will beat the dickens out of it, ya know? SO, certain things have to be handled with kid gloves.

 

Which is it?