This should make your blood boil

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by LETSGOEERS!!!, Jul 20, 2009.

  1. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    Did you even read my post past the first couple of sentences???? Obviously you didn't with your stack of links to "costs of illegals". Let me repost part of it for you...

    You seem to constantly miss the point. I can't make it any more straight forward to you.

    Camera angle? Hmm.. news cameras typically point to where a problem arises. They're not showing the whole field. I'm sure there were other flags (the US included) like turtlepits said. I wasn't at the game to verify, but I have been to a Railhawks game before and I remember quite a few American flags flying around the field.

    Anyways.. The fans were supporting their team. What if someone was waving an American flag, say at the Olympics up in Vancover this February? They're supporting _your_ "team" but they're in another country. Should they be allowed to do that? What about the Mexican Olympic Team or any other country's team? Can they wave theirs? If not, WHY? I still want to know if you'd be offended and upset if it was another country waving their flag at the game. Say.. England? China? How about Saudi Arabia? UAE?
     
  2. LETSGOEERS!!!

    LETSGOEERS!!! Well-Known Member

    I have no problem with them waving their team’s flag, but they weren't. It was a Mexican flag. This wasn't the Mexican Olympic team.

    Since this is still the USA, I hope there was a United States flag flying somewhere in the stadium.

    I understand that you think its fine the way the crowd acted. I could see if this game was at the opponent’s field, but it wasn’t. The scariest part was they even had people coming onto the field, which if I was a player I’d be very upset.
     
  3. nevilock

    nevilock Well-Known Member

    ... It was the Railhawks VS Estudiantes Teco... a mexican soccer team.
     
  4. VolleyGirl

    VolleyGirl Guest

    I haven't gathered that he only has a problem with Mexicans, but in this specific instance they were most likely the biggest population represented at that game (illegal or not) so it makes sense for him to only mention them.

    Bottom line whether legal or illegal, black, white, purple I don't care you don't act like that at sports events (or anywhere for that matter). Period.
     
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  5. LETSGOEERS!!!

    LETSGOEERS!!! Well-Known Member

    You're correct, they are a team from Mexico. They are not the Mexican national team or their Olympic team. I guess being a team from Mexico gives everybody here a chance to come out and wave the Mexican flag.
     
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  6. nevilock

    nevilock Well-Known Member

    Er... Yes? I know you meant to be sarcastic and derisive... but... Yes. Thats exactly how it works. Just like people supporting international drivers in IRL wave the flag of their driver's homeland.
     
  7. LETSGOEERS!!!

    LETSGOEERS!!! Well-Known Member

    So if my beloved WVU Mountaineers ever play Mexico City, I will be sure to go wave my United States flag and leave all my WVU stuff at home. Hell I even bring a couch to burn. :lol:
     
  8. momof3grls

    momof3grls Well-Known Member

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  9. turtlepits

    turtlepits Well-Known Member

    OMG!

    Which bothers you the more???

    A) It was mostly Mexican/ Hispanic people
    B) Mexican/ Hispanic people were throwing bottles
    C) Mexican/ Hispanic people were waving flags for Mexico
    D) You are NOT in charge of ICE
    E) All of the above
     
  10. LETSGOEERS!!!

    LETSGOEERS!!! Well-Known Member

    F) People like you who just don't seem to get it
     
  11. turtlepits

    turtlepits Well-Known Member

    I get it! You seem to not like Mexican/ Hispanics.... legal or illegal!

    I call that RACIST!! Characterizing them all together makes you racist, I don't care what u say!




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  12. VolleyGirl

    VolleyGirl Guest

    Hey if you condone throwing bottles at players during your games that's your thing. I don't think it's called for any time, no matter how rowdy you like to get. That's the behavior I was referring to.

    I did find this comment to the article on WRAL from someone who was at the game. I applaud the Mexican team for trying to keep things under control and cleaned up:

     
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  13. seabee

    seabee Guest

    soccer sucks anyways so let them be idiots... could care less... :cheers:
     
  14. turtlepits

    turtlepits Well-Known Member

    Don't make me throw a bottle at you... :jester:
     
  15. seabee

    seabee Guest

    make sure its not empty and its alcohol... :cheers:
     
  16. nevilock

    nevilock Well-Known Member

    As far as the throwing bottles/cans, its happened quite frequently at NASCAR races... i think i missed the uproar on here. It must have happened, because thats the issue at hand...


    Search: Nascar cans: 0 results returned.


    But its a national sport, with more coverage than this railhawks game could ever see, no matter how many scandalous flags there were in the crowd...

    Search: Gordon cans: 0 results returned.


    Hrmm... Now i'm confused.


    Halp?
     
  17. turtlepits

    turtlepits Well-Known Member

    Will do! I'll throw two, one for each hand :cheers:
     
  18. LETSGOEERS!!!

    LETSGOEERS!!! Well-Known Member

    Ok, you figured me out. I'm a RACIST back woods hillbilly.

    My grandmother gave me some great advice a long time ago. If it looks and smells like ****, it's probably ****. It's as simple as that.
     
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  19. turtlepits

    turtlepits Well-Known Member

    Yeah, you just PROVED it !!


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  20. Jester

    Jester Well-Known Member

    I will say this. Sports should be just one way to find a common interest and get along. However, some display poor sportsmanship during games and then find reason to butt heads over commentary about the games.

    I think I understand the point here and its not about racism per se, rather its about a person's commentary about the audacity of visitors to a sporting event being disruptive with no remorse and even seemingly going overboard in a display of heritage as if to send a message. Perhaps it does seem to sting a bit more from those of another nationality, but it really is not that much different than cross-county, bitter rivals in high school football or a NASCAR event.

    It shows that some just cannot refrain from taking their disappointment a few steps further approaching aggression and disrespect when we are just spectators and not participants. If the shoe was on the other foot and say a southern minor league baseball team traveled to Mexico City to play a local team, only for a rowdy bunch of southern fans to wave confederate flags and throw water bottles at the opposing team, it wouldn't be much different. Except that many both there and here, as well, would be appalled and embarrassed and likely call those rowdy visitors racists.

    I think the lesson here is simple but not easily followed. We should display good sportsmanship, but especially when we are guests in someone else's backyard.
     

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