I got a job working at a convience store, but had moved back to KS due to my ex basically kicking us out, and moved with no money, no car or anything and with 2 kids and basically was starting from scratch. I did not get help right away, only after a long struggle did I finially break down and get the help. I tried to do it on my own with what I was making but just couldn't. My folks paid for the kids to go to the Catholic school there. This was my folks choice to do this, I did not ask. I had only made a comment about wishing that I could afford to send my kids there. My folks helped somewhat, but they had their own things to take care of. When I posted, I was just trying to show that there are honest people out there that do not take advantage of the welfare system. There are many people out there that do take advatage of it and many that do not. No one ever hears about the ones that do not. This from a honest person!
kookookacho wrote: Fighting Camel wrote: Amazing how some people will be so quick to point out that they never received government assistance...yet forget about the $9,000 a year the State of North Carolina pays for them (or their child) to go to a UNC system university. $1,800 for a private university/college. Very simple. The General Assembly appropriates on average $9,021 (2006-2007) for each in-state student attending an institution of the University of North Carolina. This is paid regardless whether your parents are on welfare or if your parents are millionaires. This is paid on each student enrolled for up to 5 years. If tuition is $2,001.50 per semester ($4,003.00 per year),as sighted by ready2cmyKing for ECU;, then add $9,021 to determine what the out-of-state student pays ($13,024). This is tuition only and does not include food, housing, allowance, beer, etc. If it is a non-UNC school, then the General Assembly appropriates $1,800 per year to offset tuition. This is one reason why state universities are generally cheaper than private universities. No, they don't send a check to you...but it is public assistance (tax monies) given to the university on behalf of you (or your child)to offset the costs of higher education. Full disclosure...yes my children receive this assistance also, and my wife and I don't pay $9,021 a year in state taxes.
You make no sense...why would someone pay out of state tuition to go to their state funded schools? My parents paid taxes for 40+ years for me to get that break when I went to school...because they worked and didn't draw welfare! This is not welfare in any shape or form! Some of you always scew the topics to fit your own interest!
Many of us have been there.... I paid student loans for ten years. My brothers and I all went to a small, private, Jesuit university. I do understand, however, that it probably wouldn't be possible to go there today (I'm class of '85). The cost there has multiplied geometrically since I graduated. My neice's father is the Controller of a large power company, and the cost was prohibitive to her. In the case of my oldest brother, it was a real stretch for my parents... He went to college on an ROTC scholarship during the Vietnam War, and went on to win a Fullbright Fellowship to France, so he owed the Army four years after he went to France for a year.
So what I explained before is right? LOL I wouldn't think they would just send me a check. (that was cute) :lol: So they just automatically discount in-state tuitions. And...you don't have to apply for this discount or sit in a long line in for 6 hours just for someone to review your application and tell you that you make too much money or have too much in savings to get the in-state discount? (I'm being sarcastic - you don't have to answer the last part. )
Amazingly even as incompetent and redundant as state government can be...no you don't! (I type this as a state retiree!!) 8)
No, I assumed she went to a school in North Carolina not particularly a UNC system school. I noticed you did not answer the question but only tried to confuse things even more.
You used the governmental support system of student loans? When will you be ranting about the waste of taxpayer funds and wanting to shut that system down because of those who default on their loans?
Tyson? Think what you want however you don't know jack about me. If you wanna keep being a drama queen go for it. However I know the truth and facts. Also there are two sides to every story. Also all the facts from my side are in evidence. So I am the one smiling. Unlike otherpeople I know who like to lie. Otherwise have a great day.
Sure it is. And private schools get funding, too. Most of theirs comes from federal funding even though some of them get state grants also. Even Oy's little Jesuit school is collecting a break from the tax exemption status of the church. It's just easier to sneer about the welfare Momma with 4 kids from 5 different daddys :lol: because our welfare is going to make us more productive citizens and contributors to society...... :roll: Oh, and before anybody gets high and mighty about us college welfare queens and kings......my taxes paid for repairing the road potholes created by your overloaded construction vehicle and the sewer system the county had to run out to your new school and to the Walmart where you want to go shopping for Extra Low Prices (oh, that's Food Lion). Now that's a waste of taxpayers money.
This from the man who just told ME I didn't know what it's like? :roll: No it doesn't seem to...but perhaps I'm missing something? Stop being obtuse, Wayne. It's unattractive and will cause you to lose friends. I recommend highly that you go back and read what I was responding to. For the record, I had given up an apartment (and anything resembling an adult life) and was living with my mom so she could keep the baby while I worked and went to school. Which you immediately followed with: "... and the rest of us are repeating your words to you." Making your meaning quite clear. You can flubber around like a fish on a dry dock to your heart's content, Wayne. The fact is you made the mighty big assumption...and fell flat while doing so. Which I did...see above. You know, no matter how bad I've seen the economy get over the years, I can't recall a time when there wasn't a McDonald's hiring, or a shoe store, or any number of jobs that, even if combined into 2 jobs if needed, will keep you from having to be supported by the public. No one here, including me, has stated that short-term isn't okay. People fall on hard times. Or that those who are disabled shouldn't be assisted until they figure out what they need to do. I suggest you go back and read my original post on the matter in this thread and realize how off topic you have taken this in your efforts to excuse people from taking personal responsibility for themselves. Who said you have the Constitutional right to live off of the public so that you can live where you want? If you have no car and don't live near a bus line...then move to where there is a bus line. It's not a difficult thing to understand...do what you need to do to take care of yourself and yours. If there is nothing left you can do....then you can ask for temporary help. TEMPORARY. I have empathy for those who help themselves. I have none what-so-ever for those who expect everyone else to do all the assisting for them. Or it could be that you are a bleeding-heart-tax-and-give-away-slightly-tinged-with-socialist-leanings-liberal. :lol: :lol:
Make sure I know where you are in a year or two, because my kidlet and I will be trying to find a professional "grant" finder. :lol: :lol: She's picked out a school in London, so it's going to be an interesting endeavor.
1. Student loans are paid back...with interest. Beware the shark named Sallie Mae. 2. Education for the hope of our future - our children - is a whole nother animal, Wayne. If taxes were like the United Way, I would choose to have ALL of my tax money go towards paying college tuition for students who keep their grades up. The only ones that would have to pay it back would be those who drink their way into being a college-failure...and those who quit.
This week's special is DRAMA, Harley. Pure, unadulterated political drama. Tonight's bonus short films are: "Moms Who Made It", followed by "He's my Baby-Daddy, You Ho!" and "How I Milked the System and Am Now Living in Your Florida Vacation Home." Those who stay late will receive a miniature tea cup just big enough to fit your after-tax income. All this (or at least all you can endure) for just $9.99. Join us next week when the special will be: "Liberals who hate Leiberman and the Republicans who are laughing at them." :wink: :lol:
Nope, I never said that but you seem to believe I did. Maybe you might want to read my posts again and if you still believe that is what I said you can give us the quote. You were willing to use the system and justified it by the fact you had paid all of those taxes... which is exactly what was originally stated in my post. :wink: I did and you were not responding to anything I said ..... :shock: Yet, you still needed assistance which should not have been necessary given the ease it can be obtained outside of the welfare system if you really try. Yes, I am repeating your word to you even now and it does not seem to be getting though yet. What big assumption? That you would "justify" the use of welfare by the taxes you paid if and when you needed it? You confirmed that assumption, which was not very big at all. Yet you STILL tried to get welfare too. For everyone or just you? What would the limits be as in size of family, medical expenses, number of children in diapers, lack of childcare options, and the like? Odd, you seem to be saying something entirely different here. If they do not qualify for SSI they are out ... unless their employer has short term disability insurance ... that does not seem to indicate any allowable support for them other than from their employer. I suggest you go back and read my original post on the matter in this thread and realize how off topic you have taken this in your efforts to excuse people from taking personal responsibility for themselves. No one, but you did say they could ride bus if they had a car that excluded them from benefits did you not? You are aware of the limited service areas for buses are you not? What do you use for money to make such a move? Leave all of your stuff and start over by walking somewhere? The overly "simple" solutions only seem to work for very limited situations. As long as you do not ever expect to actually get it though ... right? I can agree and I hope your children will be supporting their father in his old age so the rest of the taxpayers to do it for them.... :wink: I have always heard that once you have to resort to the personal attack you have lost the debate. I suppose this means you have no real additions to present.
