Bibles in Cumberland County

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The name shows the Character of this church.

 

Thank the Lord I had a preacher's wife as a science teacher. She said I know this is against the bible, but this is what the state said I have to teach... then she taught the lesson.

I can agree to this.

 

putting away the cane..........

Happy Thanksgiving to you & yours! :-D

 

I'm sure the bibles were donated by a church. The other religions could do the same, but looks they aren't.

 

I find it ironic the talk of how impressionable children are in receiving literature at school such as a Gideons Bible. Yet, the schools can endorse Scholastic to sell the Golden Compass to kids that projects those of faith in a negative manner.

If a young child can be expected to understand varying forms of belief and be tolerant, then that same belief should hold true with them receiving a Bible. The Bible has a historic foundation in the formation of our country and Biblical history does reflect that of ancient Middle Eastern history in the relative time period. Perhaps, its a good opportunity to sit down with your child and discuss Judeo-Christian beliefs.

I agree with the sentiment that if they are made available in the hallway at lunch, before school or after school, then from an organization like the Gideons, it should be okay. They are not radicals.

As for Westboro, they aren't even affiliated with any Baptist denomination. They operate on their own beliefs and while they may protest from public property, I do not at all agree with the disrespect they demonstrate.

 

Now I had an idea. How about if the church calls up the school and says "We'd like to drop off some bibles to be available for the kids."

The school says "fine"

Then they get to thinking, how are non-christian parents going to respond to this? We don't want them thinking we have an agenda and are "pushing" a specific religion on their children.

So, they get the idea to call up some other local places of worship like the Mormon Temple, Jewish Syngogue, the Hindus, etc... and tell them "Hey, we are going to have a table set up for religious literature. Do you want to participate?"

Then they go one step further and get some pamphlets from teachtolerance.org.


OMG. Look!! Everybody is happy, nothing is being pushed, and all ***** are covered.


The end.

 

Cleopatra, did I ever tell you, you are brilliant! If not, it's overdue. Kudos.

 

Why should this become the schools task to organize? Also, what if one religion chose not to participate? Would that prevent the entire event to happen?

I think the PTA should be responsible for something like this, not the school itself.

 

Currently the bibles are being distributed at the..... school. It seems to me they would want to be inclusive, lest they be accused of pushing one faith. If one religion did not participate, than I guess they don't participate. At least they were invited and knew that it was an option.

What does it matter if it is the school or the PTA? Either way it is on school property. I'm wondering if it is the school, the program would need to be more stringent and be held accountable (ie: include *every religion*), whereas the PTA is a seperate entity and could only represent religions that met their agenda.

Hmm. Very crafty, tawii.

What's wrong with a win-win situation? Everybody will be happy... except for a few Christians. <wink>

 

I guess you and I are the only ones that "get" it.

 

Bueller... Beeller....

 

Crafty, not at all. I think that too many times schools are overburdened because of things like you are suggesting.

Seems to me a PTA would more likely cover all the bases since it would involve more people with different beliefs. The school would assign one or two at the most.

 

If a kid brings their own bible from home I have no problem, that is their right. Same as bringing a Koran or other holy text. The public school should not be giving them out. And NO I am not a liberal.

 

Hey now. Just because I haven't posted much lately doesn't mean I don't care (LOL).

Just messin with ya, Cleo. Been way too busy to check the boards. Thought I'd let ya know I agree with the table too!


Frogger

 

Irrespective of religious belief, I think that the schools have more than enough to do with the mandates they have to TEACH. NCLB comes to mind. AYP achievement is another.

 

No Cash Left for Books?

Sure, I'm not saying it should the school's job - anybody could lead the project, be it the PTA or even a parent. I'm just think if they are going to be distributed on school grounds, all religions should be available and somebody has to be "accountable" for exclusion or preference.

 

Back to a ? that I previously posted.

If some "outside the norm" group wanted to distribute their belief system via the schools or PTA, who then is comfortable or qualififed to judge the merits of inclusion or exclusion?

I am somewhat surprised when I see comments that I interpret to mean that group "A"s constitutionally protected belief and their practice of it is not fit for society.

As reprehensible as some of their rhetoric may seem to some on this baord, I am sure that they find objection in what they perceive as a society that is falling short of a state of Grace. It seems that some mainstream religions believe that they have a responsibility to spread the Word. How does that reconcile with those who teachings are diametrically opposite, yet who are also charged with sharing their version of religious belief?

At some point, the comfort level of those who would permit religious discussion among like thinking ideas, tend to want to close the door to discussion in a public venue or distrbution system like the schools or PTA, when ideas which they find unacceptable are brought forth.

The freedom or practice or not practice Religious beliefs, in a civil society, is an all or nothing proposition.

 

Ah! I knew someone would bring up SOC&S somewhere down the line. And, as always, it is misquoted and misused once again. I honestly wish someone would actually use it in the right context for once rather than blowing it all out of proportion and parroting what the left-wing nut jobs would like it to say. Get it right or don't use it......period. Parroting the left on this subject only makes you look stupid.

 

OK....this is going to be strange, but......very well said, Clif. I am glad to see someone FINALLY using it properly rather than taking it completely out of context like it has been done so often.

I am glad to see where we have some common ground.

 

If you are saying that the phrase "separation of church and state" does not appear in the constitution, that is correct. That phrase is a brief description of the effect of two clauses in the first amendment to the constitution, known as the establishment clause and the free exercise clause. The first documented use of the expression, "a wall of separation between church and state" was by Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to a Baptist preacher assuring him that the government could not establish one branch of Christianity, or any other religion, as an official state religion.

Your frequent accusations against those you disagree with just show your own intolerance.

I do not believe stlfan misquoted anything. I do believe he/she gave an accurate description of the law regarding the separation of church and state - that is, that the government can neither establish a religion nor interfere with the practice of religion. In other words, the government is required by the first amendment to the constitution to keep hands off religion.