n.c. republican state senate candidate

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  1. Clif

    Clif Guest

    Just out of curiosity, have you recently lived in Texas?
     
  2. mom2~1boy

    mom2~1boy Guest

    LOL Clif made a funny!
     
  3. Clif

    Clif Guest

    Clif makes lots of funnies. Unfortunately people seem to think that he's only out to argue so they take every post as an argument.
     
  4. mom2~1boy

    mom2~1boy Guest

    na, not me I just learn to avoid certain topics with folks. Its all good!
     
  5. ServerSnapper

    ServerSnapper Well-Known Member

    Show us where that fine line is Clif so we get it.
     
  6. RealityCheck

    RealityCheck Well-Known Member

    To make it easier, I sent this email (name and address X out on here) to Mr. Rouzer this morning, I'll post the response when I receive it:

    Mr. Rouzer,



    As I am considering all the issues before I make up my mind in the Senatorial race between you and Ms. Reeves, I have one simple yes or no question:



    Did you lobby for the AGJOBS Act of 2007, sponsored by Dianne Feinstein (D- Calif.)?



    Thank you for your time and best wishes in your campaign.



    XXX XXXX

    XXXX XXXXXXX Dr

    Benson, NC, 27504

    realitycheck4042@yahoo.com
     
  7. ServerSnapper

    ServerSnapper Well-Known Member

    What is that RC? Please don't make me look it up.
     
  8. dangerboy

    dangerboy Well-Known Member

    we do not! prove it!


























    ;)
     
  9. dangerboy

    dangerboy Well-Known Member

    the bill he supposedly lobbied for that was also supported by ted kennedy which yielded the sombrero mailer from nena reeves
     
  10. nsanemom22

    nsanemom22 Well-Known Member

    yup
     
  11. kdc1970

    kdc1970 Guest

    He's got us trained like Pavlov's dogs. :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  12. Clif

    Clif Guest

    You will never get it.
     
  13. ServerSnapper

    ServerSnapper Well-Known Member

  14. RealityCheck

    RealityCheck Well-Known Member


    Here you go SS....from page 3 of the thread:

    One synopisis of The AGJOBS Act of 2007, sponsored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D- Calif.):

    http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1626.cfm

    Couple of interesting parts:


    Ag JOBS Atrocity
    The Ag JOBS Act would create a pilot program that provides work visas, called "blue cards," to guest workers who wish to work in the agricultural sector, regardless of whether they are currently illegally present. In sum, the Ag JOBS Act would grant amnesty to 1.5 million illegal agricultural workers and 1.8 million of their family members. Because it adopts a looser approach to the basic requirements that applicants must meet to be granted blue card status, this legislation would make it even easier for illegal immigrants to obtain legal status than under the Senate's comprehensive immigration bill. Three changes are especially significant:

    In order to be considered for blue card status, applicants would only have to prove that they worked in agriculture for "863 hours or 150 work days," in 2005 and 2006, using government employment records or "other reliable documentation as the alien may provide." The wide variety of valid documentation will only make it easier to fabricate documents.
    Applicants for blue card status would not need to return to their home countries before applying, as was required by a provision in the original immigration bill.
    Applicants with pending criminal charges and those who have been convicted of some misdemeanors can still receive amnesty.
    In addition to this amnesty, several provisions in the act would compound the illegal immigration problem:

    A confidentiality clause would bar the Department of Homeland Security from using an applicant's information for alternative purposes, such as enforcing federal immigration laws.
    Program participants are obligated to become citizens after 3 to 5 years of work in the agricultural sector. If a worker fails to do so, he will lose his visa and could be deported. Many migrant workers do not aspire to become citizens, and this provision would only discourage workers from joining the program.
    The amendment also protects workers of blue card status from being fired unless the employer has "just cause." This protection is not even afforded to those American workers who work on an "at will" basis in many states, where they can be fired for any reason or no reason. This clause could mire employers in legal proceedings if a worker feels that he has been unjustly fired and would be a large disincentive for employers to hire workers with a blue card.
     
  15. ServerSnapper

    ServerSnapper Well-Known Member


    Ahh thank you. I agree 100% with your question then!! That would be a deciding factor for me too.
     
  16. Shadow Rider

    Shadow Rider Well-Known Member

    Guess politics leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth!! (notice avatar)
     
  17. Shadow Rider

    Shadow Rider Well-Known Member

    From the other thread (so you won't have to muddle through about 15 pages)-

    Also from that same thread:


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ServerSnapper View Post
    What is that RC? Please don't make me look it up.

    Here you go SS....from page 3 of the thread:

    One synopisis of The AGJOBS Act of 2007, sponsored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D- Calif.):

    http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1626.cfm

    Couple of interesting parts:

    Ag JOBS Atrocity
    The Ag JOBS Act would create a pilot program that provides work visas, called "blue cards," to guest workers who wish to work in the agricultural sector, regardless of whether they are currently illegally present. In sum, the Ag JOBS Act would grant amnesty to 1.5 million illegal agricultural workers and 1.8 million of their family members. Because it adopts a looser approach to the basic requirements that applicants must meet to be granted blue card status, this legislation would make it even easier for illegal immigrants to obtain legal status than under the Senate's comprehensive immigration bill. Three changes are especially significant:

    In order to be considered for blue card status, applicants would only have to prove that they worked in agriculture for "863 hours or 150 work days," in 2005 and 2006, using government employment records or "other reliable documentation as the alien may provide." The wide variety of valid documentation will only make it easier to fabricate documents.
    Applicants for blue card status would not need to return to their home countries before applying, as was required by a provision in the original immigration bill.
    Applicants with pending criminal charges and those who have been convicted of some misdemeanors can still receive amnesty.
    In addition to this amnesty, several provisions in the act would compound the illegal immigration problem:

    A confidentiality clause would bar the Department of Homeland Security from using an applicant's information for alternative purposes, such as enforcing federal immigration laws.
    Program participants are obligated to become citizens after 3 to 5 years of work in the agricultural sector. If a worker fails to do so, he will lose his visa and could be deported. Many migrant workers do not aspire to become citizens, and this provision would only discourage workers from joining the program.
    The amendment also protects workers of blue card status from being fired unless the employer has "just cause." This protection is not even afforded to those American workers who work on an "at will" basis in many states, where they can be fired for any reason or no reason. This clause could mire employers in legal proceedings if a worker feels that he has been unjustly fired and would be a large disincentive for employers to hire workers with a blue card.
     
  18. Clif

    Clif Guest

    Isn't that what Monica Lewinski said? No, wait, she said "politicians".
     
  19. Kelyel

    Kelyel Well-Known Member

    Get out & VOTE!
     
  20. RealityCheck

    RealityCheck Well-Known Member

    No response to the above email after 24 hours.
     

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